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Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 1 week agoI mean the general degradation of good faith, values, trust and aspiring to a shared goal within a society. Sure, some people will never have these things. The problem is when they become a majority.
chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 1 week ago
What are the good faith and values that you support in a society that you think we’ve lost?
Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 1 week ago
honesty, kindness and fairness.
Cleisthenian@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
Ciceronian opinions!
chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 1 week ago
I guess I don’t see those as eroding in our society. Every day I see people in my community and am greeted with kindness, everyday I see injustice and find people wanting for fairness, and every day I see lies spread and people fighting it with honesty.
I think why myself and people with similar mindsets do believe the problem is capitalism not a spontaneous decay of society is that when normal interactions are driven by the virtues you’ve listed, and they are the deep core desires of basically every person, why is it that we have systems that make it so hard to live those virtues?
It seems to me that while I pay money every month for healthcare, the doctors have to fight for my ability to get the care I need. While I know teachers that desperately want to help children, schools struggle to convince that investing in our children’s future is worth it. While people don’t want folks to live without homes, the large systems that allow us to make choices about it seem most interested in making sure property values stay unobtainable.
I don’t know that I would convince you anything, but consider that these values are not lost but that they are stifled. And when you build a system that gives resources, status, and power to the most cruel and cutthroat, it’s not surprising that virtues are eroded for the sake of money.
Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I don’t think there’s a system in place that gives resources, status and power to the most cruel beyond nature. The way i see it, power will always corrupt, with or without capital/money/stock/land ownership as a proxy to represent it. Even if we got rid of money. Look at any empire in human history, even before currency was invented (the same thing used to happen with cattle). You’ll see a bunch of ruthless assholes ruling over a few that are comfortable enough and a great majority that are just trying to survive. It’s been this way since we stopped living in tribal settings and invented the city (due to agriculture). And the kicker is decapitating rulers will only get you new ruthless asshole rulers.
Kindness is about how we treat people outside our own tribes, not within them. People learn by example. The ruthless leaders will always be there, but we can stop buying the poison when it’s sold to us and be kind to each other.