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• Pudutr0n@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I mean the general degradation of good faith, values, trust and aspiring to a shared goal within a society. Sure, some people will never have these things. The problem is when they become a majority.

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  • chortle_tortle@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    What are the good faith and values that you support in a society that you think we’ve lost?

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    • Pudutr0n@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      honesty, kindness and fairness.

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      • Cleisthenian@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Ciceronian opinions!

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      • chortle_tortle@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I guess I don’t see those as eroding in our society. Every day I see people in my community and am greeted with kindness, everyday I see injustice and find people wanting for fairness, and every day I see lies spread and people fighting it with honesty.

        I think why myself and people with similar mindsets do believe the problem is capitalism not a spontaneous decay of society is that when normal interactions are driven by the virtues you’ve listed, and they are the deep core desires of basically every person, why is it that we have systems that make it so hard to live those virtues?

        It seems to me that while I pay money every month for healthcare, the doctors have to fight for my ability to get the care I need. While I know teachers that desperately want to help children, schools struggle to convince that investing in our children’s future is worth it. While people don’t want folks to live without homes, the large systems that allow us to make choices about it seem most interested in making sure property values stay unobtainable.

        I don’t know that I would convince you anything, but consider that these values are not lost but that they are stifled. And when you build a system that gives resources, status, and power to the most cruel and cutthroat, it’s not surprising that virtues are eroded for the sake of money.

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