Comment on New level of capitalist hell unlocked: Companies are relying on AI to pinpoint exactly how desperate job seekers are in the hopes they can pay them as little as possible.

Strider@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Randelung@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  We lost 50% of our team this year. They all cited a shitty work environment as a reason. (Like most people who quit.)

  I’m trying to get the boss chain to understand that it takes a fresh person a year to be fully operational. If you have to replace someone, it directly costs you money, let alone the likely higher salary.

  If you as a boss feel like your team is “underperforming”, it’s your job - not the team’s - to come up with KPIs and evaluate if your feeling is just greed or if there’s an actual issue, and if there is, it’s also your job to remedy it. You need a strategy for that - you know, the kind of thing a boss does.

  But since only sales reps get promotions because they’re good at selling themselves and bring direct income, we’re all fucked. They only know competition and their responsibility stops after their signature, be it a sale or a job contract.

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  • chilicheeselies@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    As someone who has been in that situation, at some point you need to realize that poor leadership is the issue, and there is no way you can fix that from lower on the totem pole.

    Also, reputation is everything. If your department has a bad reputation in leadership’s eyes, no matter what you do personally, you will also be associated with that reputation.

    It’s best to leave these kinds of places for a fresh start.

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    • Randelung@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah, that’s what I’m worried about, too. I came here specifically because I know the CEO and he wanted me as a remedy, so I want to try to get him to listen before jumping ship again.

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      • chilicheeselies@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        If you know the CEO then you have a fighting chance. But he needs to want to change.

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  • tomkatt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’m in an IT role, similar happened. My team previously had 12 people on it, now there’s 7 with 1-2 out of office on any given day. I think I’ve gone from an average of 15-18 cases with 5-7 active at any time to around 40+ cases with 15-25 active on any given day. This means my quality of work has dropped as I no longer have time for deeper investigation of issues, and I’ve gotten to the point I really don’t care. We’re not adding back staffing and this is the status quo now.

    Honestly… I’m tired of it. I was already fighting burnout in March before the cuts, and now I just don’t have the energy to care, I’m just going through the motions and taking care of my mental and physical health outside work hours. I’ll probably quit soon, and I expect it’ll be a few months at least before I go job hunting, I badly need a break.

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    • Randelung@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Take care of yourself. virtual hug

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  • Strider@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’m really sorry for what you have to endure (likely) in the USA. I can only say that it is very different here in Europe.

    Its also shitty and annoying but on a completely different level aka much better in general (of course not every country or company). Everytime I left an employer they were sad to see me go for two reasons: money/invest of course but also regarding the impression I left.

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    • Randelung@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Nope, Switzerland. Boss trash talks ex employees after they leave, e.g. “not sad to see them go since they were low-performers” in his imaginary world of instant gratification.

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      • Strider@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Oof shit sorry. I had a friend who once worked in Genf but I didn’t hear of those business habits there from him.

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• Crankenstein@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  But why do that when you can wantonly exploit your workforce for obscene profits? /s

  See, they don’t need the best workers, isn’t like they are going to be partaking of the services or products they are shoveling, they just need obedient workers who will meet a minimum threshold of quality; anyone who falls below the threshold can be used as an example to ensure the rest keep working.

  They aren’t delusional, they are owning class capitalists and their incentives are fundamentally different from ours as working class people.

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  • Strider@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Hm, yes to what you’re saying but I’d still call them delusional.

    The reason being taking established business management knowledge. Yes, you want to maximize profit (there’s more to that, but let’s leave it at that for here). You calculate how to do this and it is known on general that the positive reinforcement works better and more reliably than the negative path.

    So for me, they’re delusional in holding on to wrong beliefs. And they’re bad managers too.

    And let’s not get started on the morality of course.

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    • Crankenstein@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      This is just how the system of capitalism naturally degrades into fascism. Eventually they can’t squeeze enough out of the established methods and must tighten their grip. Positive reinforcement only gets you so far, and the owning-class wishes to go further.

      And what makes a “good/bad” manager depends on the incentive structure. To us, the way they manage things is considered bad by our interests but, to them, they see it as good management because it is still fulfilling their interests.

      But in the sense that they are holding the “wrong beliefs”, I guess you could call them delusional, with their delusion being of the owning class. It is just very unfortunate our societal is built to reinforce that delusion.

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      • Strider@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Ah but the fulfilling their needs is not what it does. Only short term. And I’d like long term money if I were in that position. Anyhow, nitpicking I guess.

        Had to stop myself from quoting star wars grip tightening quote.

        In the end, I’m totally with you regarding capitalism. We could all have a nice life, especially with all the advancements and working together. Star trek has a nice society. Providing what you’re good at and like would really benefit all.

        Anyhow, won’t work with humans I guess. Best of luck to us though.

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