Comment on Lemmy or Piefed?
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Piefed is ideologically driven by the creator, and encourages pre-emptive banning and blocking users who don’t just participate in echo chamber behaviour.
Lemmys devs might be ideologically captured too, but their software isn’t, so it’s the better option.
It’s up to the mods and admins what they do with PieFed’s functions. Anything can be misused, even simple stuff. Like for example lemmy.ml has a description “a community for Foss and privacy enthusiasts” set by the admins and then ridicules and bans anyone who pushes back against the .ml political line on China.
The software feature of having a instance description is innocuous but it’s being used for deception.
Those are in no way the same thing. Lemmy having community descriptions that individual mods and admins can lie in is not the same as Piefed having automated “hey everyone, block and ban these users preemptively!” messages or banning everything that’s not on one side of politics.
Quite interesting discussions. I like the fact that @rimu@piefed.social is getting involved to explain things.
orgrinrt@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Even if I don’t personally agree with all of the ideology behind the lemmy devs, at least they are ideologically posed to keep the thing open, for the people, by the people. I respect that. A lot, in fact.
Piefed, on the surface, seems a lot less principled, and seems to also attract the non-leftist types by default, perhaps as some kneejerk reaction to the lemmy devs’ ideology. As a rule of thumb that sounds just outright worse to me, as a user, even if it seems not to impact much yet.
This is just me, as a political and ideological layperson, following my fragile principles. I might be betting wrong in doing so, but then again, might be right too. Either way, they work much the same and talk the same protocol, so it seems to me it’s just a choice of principle.
Either will work. Just thought I’d share my two cents.
rimu@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
What. Check out the modlog, they ban more people than anyone.
GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The software is open and has zero political or ideological leaning is what that person and I mean.
Yours, on the other hand, is not. I’m sure I’m tagged by default on Piefed already as “low quality” or something of the sort, purely because people downvote me because I’m not in the echo chamber of allowed opinions. Over the last few days I’ve had like 300 downvotes to about 15 upvotes just on about 3 comments in the one topic, where my comments are 100% factually, undeniably, demonstrably, correct - but people don’t like it because they think it’s “pro Apple”, and the echo chamber says they have to hate Apple.
That would make Piefed put a giant target on my head, wouldn’t it? Basically telling everyone “block this guy and ban him from your communities”. Lemmy doesn’t do that.
You also have a curated-by-you list of banned sources, which includes basically everything anyone left of centre would call “right wing”. Lemmy doesn’t.
rimu@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Of the 12,730 accounts that were active in the last week, there are 60 with the so-called “low quality” indicator, or 0.4%.
And this is in an environment where people cast 32 times more upvotes than downvotes so to earn that badge you need to be super super completely absolutely unpopular.
You’re part of a pretty special group.
Maybe try being less of an asshole? See how that goes for you.