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Abyssian@lemmy.world 9 hours agoSo their post “Cueta, Spain right now” was deleted and they were banned for it being racist. I tried to search for whatever the image was in case they’d reposted with an existing title and didn’t find anything… other than learning apparently the situation in Ceuta is completely insane.
I hadn’t heard that news. I had no idea Spain controlled that tiny bit of land at the tip Africa beside Morocco.
But much as the situation is awful and doesn’t seem like a super tasteful topic for a shit post, without seeing whatever it was I can’t see how it could be racist. Looking in to Ceuta you can see it has a crazy history, it’s been part of Spain for like 400 years, and the inhabitants are a mix of people from many places over time, with the bulk of them being much closer to Morrocan than Spanish.
The whole situation is shit, but I don’t see how you could term the folk from one side of a border crossing en masse and loads of violence and death as “racist.”
The truth is we have no idea whether or not the post was racist; we only know that one of the moderators of that community thought it was (or wanted others to think it was).
If it was really racist, I’m glad it’s gone and I’m glad they’re banned.
If not, the opposite.
But like I said, we’ll probably never know the truth. DMing the involved parties could just result in them lying about the content of the post.
ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 7 hours ago
Notice that there’s 2 posts that were removed for racism. The other one was posted 15 days prior, and was an image of a black mark zuckerburg with a comment below it implying that that was the version who steals data, which is clearly a racist post. The moderator who removed it added the comment “Next racist post gets a ban”.
The post with the Cueta post that got them banned was an image of an invasion from Lord of The Rings, equating the Cueta migrants as essentially a ‘barbarian horde’, which has traditionally been used by right-wing media as a racist scare tactic to make their viewers see non-white migrants as evil hordes who are ‘invading’ their country.
Both memes were clearly very racist, but despite that, they only received a temporary 1-week ban (I would’ve given a perma-ban for such blatant racism, myself).
Abyssian@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
(Aside: Strange, how is it that you can see the posts that were deleted? It seems unlikely you’d have such great recall of an image and caption you just happened to see 15 days ago based entirely on the title “Marcus”, but if it’s accurate that is definitely fucked up and racist.)
The Ceuta (It’s spelled Ceuta, the title had it wrong) post I can understand remembering since it was within the last 24 hours. It was tens of thousands of people organized to swarm across a border en masse. An invading army seems sort of fitting for a meme. The people on both sides of this issue are ethnically and racially similar. What’s racist about that?
That seems more like a personal bias on your and the moderator in question’s ends than genuine racism. It seems more like you’re allowing the Republican bullshit to taint your own thinking. This situation has nothing to do with race.
ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 5 hours ago
I assume I can still access them due to being an instance admin, that’s how I know what they were.
I explained how that imagery is used by racists, and the previous racist meme is a good indicator it was posted with racist intent.
Abyssian@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
The first image I definitely agree on. That’s fucked up and anyone should know it. This one I definitely don’t agree on. It’s based entirely on guess and assumption. Nothing about it is inherently racist.
I’ve honestly never even seen that movie scene used for racist shit. It’s a scene tons of people around the world are likely to know, because it’s sort of a popular book and movie series. It seems likely to randomly punish innocent nerds who don’t have experience with whatever racist image distribution networks you’ve joined.