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• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Not one from the Manifesto.

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  • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You’re going to have to be more specific. Are you talking about The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels? There isn’t just one “manifesto.” There are numerous political manifestos written by communist parties and movements throughout history.

    And even if you are referring to Marx’s The Communist Manifesto, why would you expect it to explicitly define the word “communism”? Marx and Engels largely assumed their audience already understood the term. The pamphlet’s purpose was to advocate for and describe the philosophy, goals, and program of the communist movement, not to serve as a dictionary.

    There are countless other manifestos as well: manifestos from the Communist Party of India, the Communist Party of Great Britain, the Communist Party of China, and many others. Beyond those, there are works like the Futurist Manifesto, the Fascist Manifesto, the SCUM Manifesto, and the Cluetrain Manifesto. Many of these discuss communism, socialism, or related political ideas.

    So when you keep saying “the manifesto,” which one are you actually talking about?

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Are you talking about The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels?

      That’s certainly the big one.

      There are numerous political manifestos written by communist parties and movements throughout history.

      I would challenge you to find one that uses your listed dictionary definition.

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      • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Okay, so I’ll say this: if you don’t indicate exactly which manifesto you’re talking about in a way that’s clear, I will not continue this conversation.

        As for your second point, I’ve already addressed it. None of the manifestos actually define the term communism—not one of them, including what I can only assume you mean by “the big one,” which I assume is The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx.

        Are you intentionally being facetious, or are you simply unwilling to specify which manifesto you’re referring to?

        Sir, you’re not the only person who’s read it. I’ve read it too. In fact, after looking up the other manifestos last night, I read portions of those as well.

        Reading something and comprehending it are two very different things.

        And yes, I am in fact implying exactly what you’re thinking.

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