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multiple branches of Christianity

That’s a good point. It’s weird that the divine word of God is so nebulous as to spawn 40,000 denominations that all think the others have it wrong.

assume the first was just filler

The Bible is really easy to interpret when you just ignore the stuff you don’t like. Like the original verse condoning rape. But even if we accept that the old law doesn’t apply anymore, it did at one point, meaning God (and therefore Jesus) condoned rape. If you believe God is unchanging, you have to believe he still thinks rape is permissible as long as you marry the victim.

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diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

40,000 denominations that all think the others have it wrong

Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

Matthew 18:18. New living translation to the rescue again:

I tell you the truth, whatever you forbid on earth will be forbidden in heaven, and whatever you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven.

assume the first was just filler

The Bible is really easy to interpret when you just ignore the stuff you don’t like.

Okay, if you interpret the first as something else (like until you don’t see heaven and earth so you died, or something else entirely), the other point still stands. I just claimed “another way to think of it”, meaning alternative.

If you believe God is unchanging (…) God (and therefore Jesus) condoned rape

Again, multiple ways to go here. I actually personally agree with both here.

Simple one, lots of lines from the book initially quoted follow the structure of “sin - punishment”, which implies marrying the victim was meant to be punishment which was then weaponized by the evil.

Now on the extent of God’s immutability: He can’t age, and is always omni[potent/present/scient] sure, but He made humans in his own image, and humans change all the time. Everything not specified otherwise is equal between humans and God. He is usually depicted having arms and legs since humans have those and it was not specified that He doesn’t. And I, as one of the creations in His image, would consider myself quite “changed” compared to last year or even 3 or so months ago. Don’t see how God couldn’t change his opinion on the matter, even despite the modern social construct for “person” often including opinions.

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- SkyezOpen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  I mean if you want to agree God can change his mind that entails that he can’t possibly be all-knowing. Changing your mind generally requires new information that you didn’t know before. But that’s irrelevant because numbers 23:19 and 1 Samuel 15:29 both say God can’t change his mind.
  
  In the context of a group of camel herders assigning human characteristics to a deity to make it more understandable, it lines up perfectly. In the context of an almighty God handing down his Word to humans, it’s contradictory.
  
  On a less serious note, if we’re made in his image, does he have a dick n balls? If so, what for?
  
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  - diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    23:19
    
    Which book?
    
    1 Samuel 15:29
    
    I require context
    
    27As Samuel turned to leave, Saul caught hold of the hem of his robe, and it tore. 28Samuel said to him, “The Lord has torn the kingdom of Israel from you today and has given it to one of your neighbors - to one better than you. 29He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind; for he is not a human being, that he should change his mind.”
    
    He won’t change His mind in that regard, yes. If interpreted differently, it would be contradicting itself pretty much immediately. Jonah 3:10:
    
    When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he relented and did not bring on them the destruction he had threatened.
    
    does he have a dick n balls?
    
    The real answer is that we don’t know exactly. Forgot which branches, but He is often depicted as a father in various ways, including as Maria’s partner who gave birth to Jesus. Which implies that yes, He does have a dick n balls. Although no actual fucking is described, it’s just poof and pregnant.
    
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    SkyezOpen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    Which book?
    
    I said numbers. The book of numbers.
    
    [19] God is not a human being, that he should lie, or a mortal, that he should change his mind. Has he promised, and will he not do it? Has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?
    
    And as you pointed out, God does not do everything he says, meaning he either changes his mind (which the inspired word of gawd says he does not) or he lies to people (which is evidently contrary to his nature). Go ahead and read the rest if you want, verse 16 makes it explicit that God actually spoke these words directly to balaam.
    
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