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There’s so many differences between countries on this that I think you both are arguing ineffectively.

In the US, there are union jobs that require apprenticeships and labor hours. There are also plenty of companies that will hire non-union workers with no certs. There’s a lot of variance.

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SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
It’s the same here, but the schooling and the cert make it so it’s not a piece of paper, and that’s universal. Places without schooling (looking at you USA) are the different ones.

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- velma@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I think most would agree it’s better to require a certain amount of schooling for any trade.
  
  The user you’re arguing with is from Australia though.
  
  There’s a large variance in requirements depending on the country you’re working in.
  
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  - SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    Nothing they’ve stated doesn’t also happen here, it’s why I asked where they were. If they were located in the US, they would partly have a point.
    
    But Australias system is pretty good.
    
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    velma@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    
    You kinda need to know how international certification works when you’re hiring and subcontracting with trades everyday. And they have certs from all over.
    
    I wasn’t arguing with you, I was pointing out there’s different standards. I’m very aware of how certification works in the trades.
    
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