Comment on We hate him no matter who he represents.
HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
If he ran for president as a democrat he would not have been elected.
A different take: If he was a Democrat, would he have the same opinions? If he existed as current, he would not be a democrat, but maybe his experiences were caused him to develop in other directions.
If Trump espoused democratic values, and was for things like universal healthcare, higher wages, privacy and personal autonomy, hadn’t been a sex pest, wasn’t a grifter and on and on and on… then no, I might not despise him.
Not that Jason above was in any way being sincere in the question.
He was a democrat and I’m fairly sure that beyond being manipulated through his dementia, he has not changed any of his beliefs or values on becoming a republican.
Racist barely human garbage 40 years ago, racist barely human garbage today.
No to throw around the ‘in name only’ epithet, but was he a democrat? or was that convenient label at the time? As a self-serving pig, he would chose the label that got him the most attention.
Disregarding the “left” vs “liberal” vs “democrat” disambiguation, since it doesn’t really matter in US politics at this moment, I’d suggest, when discussing “leadership”, that a Democratic person wants what is best for society as a whole while the current flavor of Republican wants what is best for the wealthy class.
I can’t think of a Mr. Trump example where he advocated for the working class without it being a transparent grift.
My point, though, is not “do I hate trump?” but instead a thought experiment of “what if trump was actually a Democrat?” If he was a wealthy-ish person advocating for the lower classes to get aid, reduce wealth inequality, improve climate management and various other “democratic” values, then yes, I would support him.
Current trump can get fucked regardless of his label.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
How the Hillary Clinton campaign deliberately “elevated” Donald Trump with its “pied piper” strategy
He only made it through the Republican primary because the Democrats helped him through it.
The punchline of the last decade has been how neoliberals and reactionaries within the liberal party laid the foundation for a Permanent Republican Majority. Even now, they’re more interested in beating back an insurgent progressive movement than ousting fascists in their own backyards.