Have considered deprogramming? There are people who can help.
Comment on who came up with this plot?
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day agoHe exists all the time, ahead of time. I am sure he would not be micromanaging each meat bag in the simulation harder than Jeff Bezos micromanages his piss breaks. Regardless, as per my other reply, the quote doesn’t count as all standards have been overruled by the new testament. Before you ask why there are new/old testaments despite “existing all the time”, I say he just fast forwarded then saw what happened and pushed the Jesus update to fix it.
Seppo@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
I beg your pardon, did I say something negative or was there another reason for such an offer?
min@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
How do you interpret Matthew 5:17 - 5:18 regarding the Jesus update? Isn’t this Jesus saying that the old testament still stands?
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
It says “fullfill”. “I came here not to abolish” quite literally meant that the old testament were to still be considered part of the Christian bible and kept for reference. It’s a bit difficult for me to define “fullfill”, although the “New Living Translation” is in my opinion more clear on it with “accomplish their purpose”. “Purpose” refers to the one described in Jeremiah 31:31-34.
See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersessionism
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
You forgot the rest.
Jesus is explicitly speaking on the law and prophets, meaning the Torah and Nevi’im, basically the entire old testament. He said not a single stroke of a letter will pass from the law until heaven and earth pass away, meaning FOREVER or until end times when a new heaven is created on earth, depending on your interpretation.
Seeing as earth is still here, all has not been accomplished.
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 3 hours ago
Oh come on, we could be debating here all day, that’s why there are multiple branches of Christianity in the first place.
Also, correct, not a single stroke of a letter “passed”. We were just looking at translations of these strokes of letters. Doesn’t mean all of them are still in effect.
Another way to think of it. There are two time conditions specified, “until heaven and earth pass away” and “until all is accomplished”. One could assume the first was just filler, and second refers to when Jesus finishes teaching everyone.