So then countries like Canada, Ireland, Finland, Denmark, surely they’re even more socialist by your standards of the people owning the means of production?
Can you elaborate on how you think the working class people in countries like China, Vietnam, or Cuba own more of the production than in western European countries?
It’s imperfect in both, but it’s actually pretty straightforward that the first three have more of the means of production owned by the state. So they are more socialist, even if they aren’t syndicalist, or another flavour of anarchist communism.
I praise socialism even when it’s just government ownership, because it is more accountable to the people than if it was in private hands.
You are right to criticise both systems for not being more communist than they are, but don’t be blind to actual socialism when it exists just because it’s flawed.
yucandu@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
So then countries like Canada, Ireland, Finland, Denmark, surely they’re even more socialist by your standards of the people owning the means of production?
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
No
yucandu@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Can you elaborate on how you think the working class people in countries like China, Vietnam, or Cuba own more of the production than in western European countries?
teslekova@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
It’s imperfect in both, but it’s actually pretty straightforward that the first three have more of the means of production owned by the state. So they are more socialist, even if they aren’t syndicalist, or another flavour of anarchist communism.
I praise socialism even when it’s just government ownership, because it is more accountable to the people than if it was in private hands.
You are right to criticise both systems for not being more communist than they are, but don’t be blind to actual socialism when it exists just because it’s flawed.