My first challenge to you would be to go look into the eyes of infertile people and tell them that “not everyone deserves a child, it’s not a right, it’s a gift.”
It’s easy to argue on the internet behind your keyboard. Much much harder to say your shitty beliefs out loud in front of people.
Here is my second question for you. A hypothetical.
You are at a fertility clinic, and a fire breaks out. You run past a room almost engulfed by flames, and see a little 4-year-old child in there, screaming for help.
As you go to rescue this child, you notice that the other side of the room has hundreds of embryos in Petri dishes. Babies, according to your beliefs.
You only have time to save one of those things. A 4-year-old child or hundreds of babies.
I could and would say “Hey, I don’t think IVF is moral. I don’t think murder is justifiable.”
I do not have time to save hundreds of petri dishes at once. IVF is also immoral as it creates so many human persons and only chooses one to live. I call the fire department after saving the child and pocketing as many petri dishes as I can
You could and would, but have you? I can assure you you’ve met many people who were conceived via IVF. Have you told them their parents are murderers to their face? Again, it’s super easy to hold these beliefs behind a keyboard.
The hypothetical only allows you to save one of these things. The 4-year-old child or hundreds of embryos. Which do you save?
I will say that I actually have more respect for anti-choice people when they are also anti-IVF. At least you’re consistent, so there’s that.
What are your views on capital punishment? I hope they are consistent there too.
ickplant@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
My first challenge to you would be to go look into the eyes of infertile people and tell them that “not everyone deserves a child, it’s not a right, it’s a gift.”
It’s easy to argue on the internet behind your keyboard. Much much harder to say your shitty beliefs out loud in front of people.
Here is my second question for you. A hypothetical.
You are at a fertility clinic, and a fire breaks out. You run past a room almost engulfed by flames, and see a little 4-year-old child in there, screaming for help.
As you go to rescue this child, you notice that the other side of the room has hundreds of embryos in Petri dishes. Babies, according to your beliefs.
You only have time to save one of those things. A 4-year-old child or hundreds of babies.
Who do you save? Be honest.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
You’ll never get a decent response from them
They’re stupid, and deep in their cult
I think they just come here because they have a humiliation fetish
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 10 hours ago
I could and would say “Hey, I don’t think IVF is moral. I don’t think murder is justifiable.”
I do not have time to save hundreds of petri dishes at once. IVF is also immoral as it creates so many human persons and only chooses one to live. I call the fire department after saving the child and pocketing as many petri dishes as I can
ickplant@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 7 hours ago
I really haven’t. No one walks around telling people how they were conceived
If I only have two choices, I would choose the embryos, and keep them frozen until someone is ready to adopt them.
thanks
Capital Punishment and the overall construct of “punishment over rehabilitation” are bad.