Comment on Philosophy has peaked. Checkmate atheists
Windex007@lemmy.world 1 week agoOk. I think I need to tap out. I don’t think we can have the same conversation.
There are two conversations: one about morality, and one about how a hospital should be run. They’re both great conversations.
I keep trying to talk about morality and ethics. To me, it’s the much more interesting conversation. It’s extremely rare to actually get the opportunity to get into moral philosophy, so even fucking roadkill is great.
It’s not that I necessarily disagree with what you’re saying. It’s just that you’re not at all talking about morals and ethics, and each attempt i make to pull you back in is met in failure. Now you’re talking about “fault” which is a completely distinct philosophical concept and “failure of the hospital system” which is not really anything.
Yeah hospitals should treat everyone. I have universal Healthcare. How to run a hospital or a health system is a tedious conversation for me. The moral and ethical discussion and examination of right and wrong of actions when a moral agent is part of a social collective with health support and limited resources is interesting.
But that’s OK. Im not saying you’re necessarily wrong about anything.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
I was thinking the same. :p
My last comment was definitely a final word of sorts.
I think we may just be mutually disinterested in the other’s conversation. I can sense the thing you’re trying to pull me into, and in truth, it would be possible to get me to say “the smoker should stop smoking, as a moral vow to their own betterment, or even to their society’s”—I don’t like smoking—the problem is just that I find this to be so trivial that it is not worthy of consideration. It isn’t pragmatic enough.
I will freely admit that you probably spend more time thinking about the subject matter of moral philosophy—I don’t really study it at all, I’m just a strong believer in justice.
But anyway, I appreciate the conversation. I hope it wasn’t too obnoxious, haha.
Windex007@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I appreciated it too! You weren’t obnoxious, very much the opposite. Curious, patient, thoughtful, well reasoned. It’s obvious to me yours IS a mind that I would want to exercise against. And any discussion rooted in pragmatic outcomes would just be agreement. I think we want the world to be the same.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
Well, I’m glad I give that impression, haha.
I believe the same, my friend. I’m sure I’ll see you elsewhere. :)