Comment on Why does not a CR (Carriage Return) automatically start a new line on some online text editors?

one_old_coder@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Ah, so that’s where it starts, but why isn’t it “fixed”? What benefit is there to leaving it like that?

  People are writing text, not code and they’re expecting the editor to the heavy lifting.

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  • TootSweet@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    but why isn’t it “fixed”?

    Because it is useful to many people in certain contexts. It’s not a bug. It truly is a feature. Not something to be “fixed”.

    You may prefer your ice cream strawberry flavored, but that doesn’t mean any ice cream that is instead chocolate flavored is “defective” and needs to be “corrected” or “fixed” to make it strawberry flavored.

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    • blackbeans@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It can help to give an analogy. But in this case it would be more clear if you would demonstrate the usefulness of this feature by explaining why a user wants to prefer to hit enter and not get any result, instead of hitting enter and getting a newline.

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      • TootSweet@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        lemmy.world/post/49360492/24735359

        Also:

        hit enter and not get any result

        You mean “hit enter and have it not affect the rendered output.” It does produce a result. It makes it appear/act differently in the editor. That’s not “not getting any result.” Just “not getting any result” that’s visible in the rendered output.

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  • whaleross@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Because it is how the format is defined. There is nothing to fix. You write text in paragraphs by default and if you want it to be displayed in any other way you need to declare it. Most formatting is done before the text, like headings and lists, but this newline without a new paragraph is declared with two trailing spaces.

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    • schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I
      declare
      it
      by
      hitting
      an
      entire
      button
      dedicated
      to
      making
      a
      new
      line that
      also
      makes
      a new
      line
      in
      the
      editor
      I’m
      looking at
      creating
      a
      new
      line.

      It doesn’t make sense from a user perspective, whatever the format is.

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      • whaleross@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Well, you are free to declare your own flavour and try get it supported by whatever editors and libraries you use. Damn, you can make up your own format that works in any particular way you want to. I bet in this time and age you could vibe code it with functions to your heart’s desire.

        But bitching about it to people that are trying to be helpful and explain why it is like it is will not render much other result than said people dropping you into their blocklist for being annoying.

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  • blackbeans@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’m with you on this one. The behavior is not as people would expect it.

    Hitting enter/return should result in a newline. That’s what users expect.

    The UX is inconsistent because it shows a newline in the entry screen, yet doesn’t show it after submitting.

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    • schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’ll say that the formatting options with the /* and the /_ and the /** are all pretty awesome. I wish every editor was like that.

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