Comment on Vape packaging and flavouring face restrictions under UK plans to reduce appeal to children

• Flamekebab@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Tracing it back then, I don’t get the appeal of cigarettes either!

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well those make you look cool, unlike vapes. 😌

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  • yermaw@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    I wanna be just like him

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  • OccamsTeapot@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fair!

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Almost everyone I know who vapes doesn’t even vape nicotine. They’re literally just inhaling flavor juice.

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  • OccamsTeapot@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I haven’t checked recently but I think your experience there doesn’t align with the statistics. Although for these people obviously yeah, vaping is dumb

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    • yermaw@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My thinking is that kids try vaping because all the cool kids are vaping that bubbleberry surprise flavour. You don’t want to be that nerd who doesnt even vape do you? Of course not! There’s zero nicotine ones too so you dont even get addicted! Then one day your mate says “hey try this one! It tastes just like candy floss!” But surprise 20mg you’re hooked for life fool!

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      • OccamsTeapot@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That is the common argument, yeah.

        Just going to add a bit of data: NYTS

        7.1% of high school students report “current use” (meaning in the last 30 days), of those, 27.5% use daily. Works out to about 1.95% of high schoolers vaping daily. Lower for middle school. Fruit flavors are most popular (which is always true for adults too).

        Cigarette smoking is down. Vaping is also down. Overall tobacco use is down.

        Unfortunately no reporting on the % using nicotine there.

        Honestly seems, like, pretty fine? Do you know what the youth smoking rate was prior to vapes being a thing?

        Then one day your mate says “hey try this one! It tastes just like candy floss!” But surprise 20mg you’re hooked for life fool!

        I think you’re overstating the addictiveness here. Going from 0 to 20 mg would not be super pleasant - more nicotine makes it harsher on your throat - and it isn’t that addictive. I’m sure you know people who smoked a few cigarettes without getting hooked, right? Even 20 mg vapes don’t give you blood nicotine levels as high as smoking.

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