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thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• seishikeido@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Except for the fact that the US and EU count heatwave deaths differently, in the US, its checked if the person actually died because of a heatstroke. In the EU, a lot of other deaths which aren’t heatstrokes but are heat related are counted as heat death.

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  • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    More precisely: for the US, they only checked if the “cause of death” field on the certificate mentions heat but EU statistics compare to a model of how many deaths would have occurred without a heatwave. Of course heat makes lots of indirect deadly circumastances more likely. We don’t have recent studies on heat deaths with similar methodology to compare both regions but at least the gun death statistics are more clear-cut.

    Also, this is a bit cynical but people who die to heat uszally had preexisting conditions and were statistically likely to die in 10 years anyway. Meanwhile most gun deaths are young adults whose productivr careers were cut short.

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    • TotallyWorthLife@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think with “productive careers” you meant “lives”, but I guess I’m not American enough to value life over producing.

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      • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I already said I’m being a bit cynical. I can move it up a notch and even thank heat waves for culling old, sickly people who would otherwise keep using taxpayer-funded healthcare for a few more years.

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  • thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m not comparing heatwave deaths to heatwave deaths though. i’m comparing gun related deaths to heat related deaths.

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    • Saryn@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My friend, those stats don’t mean what you want them to mean. The narrative you are trying to sell is frankly ridiculous and criminally stupid. And dare I say - American

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      • thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        How do you mean? That heat related deaths do not actually mean heat related deaths? People drowning in an overcrowded pool and kids left in hot cars are heat related. Just like a suicide by firearm is firearm related.

        But please, explain to my feeble American mind how heat related doesnt actually mean heat related.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah man if only we had ways to protect our most vulnerable from the unavoidable natural environmental danger of firearms.

      It’s really too bad that, like the heat, gun violence is just a part of nature and we just have to live with it.

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• Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why?

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