The US and Russia are actively trying to take parts of Europe as we speak.
Superpowers in decline.
Comment on Keir Starmer says some road and energy projects will be scrapped to pay for £15bn defence plan
moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 1 week ago
I think it’s right for the UK and Europe in general to invest in defence. Europe is on its own; nobody else will defend the continent. If Europe can’t defend itself then it probably won’t be long until the US or Russia or China decides they’d like a piece of European land for themselves (well Russia is already trying to take European land of course).
Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 week ago
tenebrisnox@feddit.uk 1 week ago
UK is already the sixth biggest spender on defence without this latest “upgrade”. Where is all the money going if - supposedly - we don’t have a large standing army, much of the hardware doesn’t work and it takes weeks for a military vessel to set sail? Lots of this is propaganda, of course. Maybe not upgrading all the nukes at a cost of £63 billion might shift some of the money? Maybe asking WHO is being defended would be a good starting point? (And it aint the ordinary UK citizen.)
huf@hexbear.net 1 week ago
The us has completely vassalized Europe and here you are crying about Russia.
moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 1 week ago
I don’t like the current governments of the US or Russia, but let’s remember that Russia is currently waging an invasion of a European country while the US is not. I hope Europe can build sufficient defence capabilities to prevent further Russian aggression towards Europe, or indeed any future American aggression towards Europe.
huf@hexbear.net 1 week ago
the US doesnt need to invade europe, the US has troops stationed all over europe. US security agencies are elbow deep in european states. the US blew up nordstream to sabotage europe. the US did a coup in ukraine to get the current war going.
but sure.
moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 6 days ago
I don’t think the US blew up Nord Stream. There’s a Ukrainian man in Poland who is wanted in Germany for blowing up Nord Stream. But a Polish judge refused to extradite the Ukrainian man to Germany because he thought a Ukrainian attack on Nord Stream would have been a justified response to Russia’s “bloody and genocidal attack” on Ukraine:
As for your claim of a “coup”, I don’t think that can be considered true in any way. Ukraine’s parliament voted to remove Viktor Yanukovych from the presidency. That’s democracy at work.
tenebrisnox@feddit.uk 1 week ago
Some would call thousands of foreign troops stationed in a country an occupying force.