Comment on America continues to fall behind the rest of the world
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 week agoIt being inspired by socialism doesn’t change the fact that the workers don’t own the means of production there and it is therefore not socialism. Them having more say because they have unions is not the same.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Workers control the means of production through the democratic state
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 week ago
they don’t though, they regulate it and apply some pressure, but these are still privately held, socialism is always in contrast to private ownership.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 week ago
The Nordic Model is public ownership of high value industry (most notably, the O&G industry). They also have universal healthcare and free education, which come as a byproduct of state owned and operated medical centers and schools. And strong union membership puts a public leash on private enterprises at the level of direct worker action.
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 week ago
“The government controls around 35% of the total value of publicly listed companies on the Oslo stock exchange, with five of its largest seven listed firms partially owned by the state.[34]” good, but not socialism. Free healthcare and schools are not related to socialism.