Comment on America continues to fall behind the rest of the world
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 week agoyou’re confusing nordic welfare states for socialism
Nordic states reorganized themselves from feudal agrarian military economies into industrial social welfare economies over the course of the late 19th and 20th centuries. Their party politics and bureaucratic reorganization was explicitly informed by socialist theories and economic models devised during that time.
Socialism is strictly about worker owned means of production.
Strong unions, state owned industries, and Democratic governance gives working Scandenavians direct say over and profit from their local economies
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 week ago
It being inspired by socialism doesn’t change the fact that the workers don’t own the means of production there and it is therefore not socialism. Them having more say because they have unions is not the same.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Workers control the means of production through the democratic state
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 week ago
they don’t though, they regulate it and apply some pressure, but these are still privately held, socialism is always in contrast to private ownership.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 week ago
The Nordic Model is public ownership of high value industry (most notably, the O&G industry). They also have universal healthcare and free education, which come as a byproduct of state owned and operated medical centers and schools. And strong union membership puts a public leash on private enterprises at the level of direct worker action.