Comment on Was there ever a solid or scientific answers to which came first chicken or the egg?

AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Donkeys and horses don’t even have the same number of chromosomes.

  But they can breed, which creates a mule (which is usually infertile, but not always).

  Just because animals breed doesn’t make the offspring the same species.

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  • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Just because animals breed doesn’t make the offspring the same species.

    Species is a construct and falls apart very quickly outside of the common barnyard and kidsbook animals. It can be a useful construct for understanding some things, but its not a “thing” that inherently exists in biology.

    We can impose an idea on organisms, but they have no obligation to follow it.

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  • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    No, but the fallacy is in thinking the new species appears when the egg hatches, rather than when it’s fertilized. The egg is already the new offspring.

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    • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Okay, let’s back it up a bit…

      Unfertilized eggs do not create offspring. They either create menstrual blood/waste, or breakfast food, depending on the type of creature, mammal or non-mammal.

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      • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Every egg that hatches was previously fertilized (at least for sexually-reproducing organisms). The animal that hatches from the fertilized egg became a genetically distinct organism when its egg was fertilized, not when the egg was hatched or laid.

        In the case of chickens, eggs are fertilized before being laid; when we talk about “unfertilized eggs”, we usually mean eggs that were not fertilized before being laid. Such eggs were not part of the discussion until you introduced them.

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    • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I ate two fried unfertilized eggs just a few hours ago.

      Unfertilized eggs literally never create offspring.

      Maybe take a sex-ed class?

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      • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        What’s your point? Unfertilized eggs don’t hatch, so they’re not part of the scenario in question.

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• Patnou@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Well now that you mention it.

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