Comment on Yes, yes they are
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 day agoI can be bigoted over culture and religion
I have yet to meet a Utah Mormon whomst I didn’t want to feed to the Joshua Trees.
I’m always thrown back to the Southpark guys when I think about lay Mormons. The whole “All About Mormons” episode (nevermind the Book of Mormon stage play) absolutely eviscerates the philosophy. But their attitude to actual religious practitioners is inevitably that they’re just nice, simple-minded people. And going after any individual Mormon for their faith is a bit like going up to Santa Claus exhibit at the mall and screaming “Fake! Fake! It’s all bullshit consumerism! Your parents are buying the presents!”
There’s definitely shit people who are Mormon (Mitt Romney being the ur-example). But then there’s shit people in every religious and philosophical niche. My cousin is married to a practicing Mormon and he’s an absolute marshmallow sweetheart. All smiles, great with kids, quick to help anyway he can. Soft spoken, non-judgemental, a shameless teatoddler who is always happy to be the designated driver. You can raz him for being a bit bland and he’ll laugh at your jokes, then maybe tease you about having had one too many coffees.
It’s the people who are easy to bully and scare and intimidate that can make for a very dangerous “Silent Majority”, because they’ll just kinda go along to get along. But they’re also fundamental to a peaceful, productive, and happy society when benevolent and visionary leaders are at the helm. If your society is all contrarian, belligerent, hard-drinking, fist-clenching, radical revolutionary/reactionary agitprop breathing soldiers of fortune, what you get is just endless fighting and misery and slaughter.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Ya do realize I have more reason to hate Utah Mormons than just they’re different right? I specifically focus on the Utahn culture and religious practices of Mormons because I see them as an active threat to basically every western state. If I could get away with just purging BYU, LDS HQ, and the Utahn government I’d be more than happy to settle for that, I just severely doubt that would end my complaints.
If it makes it any more understandable I am far less forgiving towards Evangelical mega churches, which all I can think is that there are only viable targets for such groups.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 day ago
A rationalization, certainly.
Downright Israeli of you.
It just sounds like you’re on the warpath.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Yeah I have a rational and structure to whom I hate, that’s called a philosophy. Sure mine may be rather notable in modernity for its archaicism and weird reference points, but I don’t particularly care since if my ideology was followed fascists wouldn’t be threatening the American project so thoroughly. Live and let live only works when the other person also respects the truce.
If the Israelis only targeted directly hostile entities and didn’t intentionally go out of their way to create new ones they wouldn’t be of note. But they can’t they’re too obsessed with so called Lebensraum, how I hope to see their cities sacked and a new diaspora created.
I wish I was on a warpath, but I am not at liberty to take such actions sadly. Too many folks don’t have enough hate in their hearts towards the preacher, the politician, and the businessman. There ain’t a thing that you or anyone else could say to me to assuage my want to burn and salt the earth.
LwL@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
A lot of the individuals aren’t in there entirely of their own will though. Particularly with BYU, the institution itself is a cancer, but the individual students are really not at fault (at least certainly not all of them). The university portrays itself very differently than it actually is, and you effectively cannot leave the mormon church while you attend (unless you want to get kicked out and have all your time there completely wasted).
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
Which is why I would simply loot and distribute whatever is usable IE lab equipment, research papers, et cetera and then burn down the facility with at least some of the faculty within. My end goal would be to destroy the social control mechanism that the Mormon church uses, if there is no Mormon universities then they have to send them to at minimum a non Mormon one. My point is to do enough infrastructural damage that the Mormon church either dies, loses control, or becomes more moderate.
Mind you I’m mostly focused on the fancy showy shit, pretty hard to be a bloodthirsty jackass when talking about seizing assets and outlawing church owned companies, portfolios, and putting a cap on tithes. Most of the damage that one could do is to break them outside of Utah, but you also need to strike the Utah shit as well to prevent them from going insular bunker mode again and having to do the same thing yet again in 100 years.