Comment on Anon's lil bro goes through his first break up

• frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t think anyone IV dripping a culture that feeds into a person’s anger is going to going to be happier or feeling a sense of purpose and fulfillment. There’s a difference between just being a gym bro and listening to influencers that make money off of playing into your insecurities.

  I question how attached they were to a feminist identity either though if a breakup shook the identity off of them.

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  • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Cool, i think ID politics is all bullshit and a crutch for mentally unwell people, no matter it’s flavor.

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    • frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think identity politics is a bit of a separate conversation. Even the term itself is a bit broad and difficult to ascribe to one thing or another. Do I think some people make one thing or another their entire personality? Oh 100%. And it’s something that’s beyond just politics as well.

      Like you said though there are plenty of people that are probably nuts, who only hold onto a label to be part of some ‘counter culture’ group or another. People who don’t really have strong moral convictions aside from wanting to have an audience and would leave their current position in a heartbeat if the spotlight was pulled from them.

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• Signtist@bookwyr.me ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Of course the manosphere gave him a sense of purpose. That’s what it was designed to do - to prey on men who don’t have enough of a support network, and sell them a false promise to improve their lives in exchange for them spreading hate and propaganda, which in turn attracts more men to the trap. It’s just a mix between an MLM and a cult. Having a sense of purpose and fulfillment doesn’t mean you made the right choice, it just means someone got you to believe you did.

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  • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    and you personally, know what the right choices are for other people?

    would you feel the same way if they joined the Catholic church? or is that just a cult of false promise too?

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    • Signtist@bookwyr.me ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t know what the right choice is, but it’s pretty easy to see what the wrong choice is. If you hate other people simply for something they can’t change, it’s the wrong choice. The manosphere hates women, full stop. That’s unacceptable. The catholic church hates gay people, full stop. That’s also unacceptable. The current pope is making some changes that might redeem it, but for now it’s objectively a bad choice.

      What’s the right choice for a group to join? Is there even a right choice? Who knows, but if your group tries to tell you to hate someone for something other than a choice they decided to make, it’s a sign you should leave that group. The only thing you can judge people on are the actions and decisions they specifically made.

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      • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        sorry, where is this group that hates nobody?

        part of the definition of a social group is about who it includes and who it exudes, and who it blames for societies faults and issues. and they all think their group isn’t hateful.

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