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• thebestaquaman@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This is an implicit part of my point: If the state doesn’t provide a social safety net, or protection from violence, then you’re also (in the moral framework I’m advocating for) absolved of your obligation to support said state through taxes and military service.

  I’m lucky enough to live in a state that provides both, so I think it’s completely fair that I’m obligated to support that system as long as I also get the benefits of it. At its core, a state is a social contract regarding what you can expect of others (via the state), and what others can expect of you. If you’re seeing only obligations and no benefits, then the state (social contract) is dysfunctional and/or unfair.

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  • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Unless you are wealthy and connected the system will run you over and never look back. I know some many adults just like you that have caught charges for doing absolutely nothing wrong.

    You argument is a wealth version of I got mine pretending a system that only cares about capital actually gives a fuck about you.

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    • thebestaquaman@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You argument is a weak version of I got mine

      I quite honestly don’t see what you mean. I’m advocating for how I think a society should work, while acknowledging that I live in a society that’s fairly close to that ideal. Sure, we have a lot of stuff to improve, but I have yet to see the kind of situation in my country that you’re talking about.

      “I got mine” would imply that I’m somehow ignoring the problems that exist elsewhere: I’m not, I’m simply acknowledging that I’m lucky enough to live in a system that I feel is worth supporting.

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      • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        'I’m lucky enough to live in a state that provides both, so I think it’s completely fair that I’m obligated to support that system as long as I also get the benefits of it"

        This is some serious I got mine vibes. It is okay that you can’t recognize your imaginary privilege.

        What country are you carrying water for.

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