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• wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Are you saying you won’t take my word for it as a man that my experiences as a man have included a pattern of being invalidated and erased in spaces where people talk about the problems they face?

  Imagine if the roles were reversed. Imagine a man saying “You said it happens all the time. Can you show me what you’re talking about?” to a woman who says she’s experienced a pattern of treatment by society.

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  • velma@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And I would be able to pull up quite a few examples, including this post right here.

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    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      But would you? It seems more often the response is just to call it misogyny that someone would even ask for proof.

      And what about for discourse about stuff that happens in person rather than online, where there’s no written record of the things said and done?

      How do you prove microaggressions that are whispered in passing? It would be ridiculous to expect someone to prove that kind of experience.

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      • velma@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        You brought up a very specific scenario:

        Sure, make a post about guys and see how long it takes these same users to comment saying “why is this unnecessarily gendered?!? Women experience this too!” Or even “That’s not an issue men face! It’s clearly a women’s issue.”

        Can you share posts that men have made from their perspective where women came in and asked why it’s gendered?

        Like what happened in this post.

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