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makeshift0546@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Or they value an os that works out of the box with the vast majority of hardware. Even valve and steam is on proprietary hardware has a ton of issues. Windows is God awful but I didn’t have to run a script on every boot up to set my HDMI device as a default. Or have to reboot my device every time I turn off my TV because HDMI can’t connect. And none of my controllers, 8bitdo, ps5ds, xbox360, work wirelessly without latency issues 🤷‍♂️.

The stubbornness of the community to acknowledge this continues to hamper improving the situation.

I give money and use bazzite+ my steam deck to support foss, but I’m not blind to the numerous issues that need to be fixed before Linux is less ignored.

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lemongarlic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Most people are also just not going to bother changing their OS lol. Most steam deck users are using Linux and most PC users are using windows.

I think it’s like why people don’t change the engine in their car, sure you could could get a better one but most people are happy with their engine and don’t want to mess with it

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- Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Wait you can get new engines? Sorry I’m being sincere & my engine is dying - is this actually a thing or is it a convenient metaphor?
  
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  - Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    How much do you want to spend? You could find a junkyard pull that may or may not be better then what you have or a rebuilt engine what should run like factory, but wont address things like a rusted frame.
    
    If you want a different engine, you’re going to have to deal with whatever quirks that come with that and you may not have anyone to ask for help if something happens.
    
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  - BetterDev@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I think their point is, yes, of course you can use another engine, because, at its core, an engine spins a drive train. That’s all it does. However, to replace one engine with another, you may need to change every hose, mount, sensor, and customize the computer, because what it shipped with assumes you’re using… What it shipped with.
    
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    Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    no I got the metaphor - I mean specifically like, are replacement car engines a commonplace thing? Not being shitty that’d just be really convenient and I know next to nothing about cars.
    
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jjlinux@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
What the fuck have you been trying that you have to jump through so many hoops? Hanna-Montana Linux? I get that some distros don’t work with some hardware unless you get down and dirty with some tweaking, but in my case, I only had that issue once with an Alienware laptop and Linux mint, because of the NVIDIA card, but that was 11 years ago. Never again since. How does that compare to having to hunt down drivers to make everything work in windows unless you purchase a computer with windows pre-installed for it to work ‘out of the box’. If you reinstall, good luck with that.

And even if some distros don’t play nice with NVIDIA cards from first install, they will still give you a display to allow you to get it to work correctly, so there’s that.

Honestly, by all means, stay on windows. I’m happy on the penguin side of things, you’re happy on the… whatever that side of the spectrum happens to be right now.

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- makeshift0546@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Did you read? Bazzite and steamos respectively. Please tell me how I don’t know what I’m doing or imagining these things.
  
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  - jjlinux@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I did read, and part of what I said came from that as well. My steam deck has been on bazzite, SteamOS and ChimeraOS, and I’ve never had an issue there either.
    
    To be clear, I’m not saying you’re imagining anything. It could very well be faulty hardware, a BIOS level issue, the downloaded ISOs themselves. The possibilities are endless. But the reality is that I have not had that experience in the Linux world at all, but have had a way worse experience with Windows, and I used to build gaming PCs in my country for a living, with Windows, since XP. Windows is a royal pain in the ass unless you buy the equipment with it preinstalled, and even then, the 1 hour + updates and resources hogging are ridiculous.
    
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Delphia@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Amen.

For every last ball ache I have about Win 10 and 11 is “well thats annoying” but they just fucking work.

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AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Wait, are you saying you have to run scripts to make hdmi default… on Steam Deck? Cause I have the thing in desktop mode, and every time I turn it on while it’s plugged into my tv, it automatically defaults to that tv no problem. What’s going on with your setup?

Also wireless latency is a problem everywhere, with some controllers being better than others. Gulikit ES Pro works pretty well in my experience, but wired is always going to be faster.

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- makeshift0546@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  No latency isn’t an issue for Windows. Stop this nonsense copium/simping.
  
  I can plug every controller in just fine. Linux just has garbage Bluetooth and wireless drivers. Garbage.
  
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  - AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Dude, wireless latency is well documented. Every controller has at least some latency, and if yours is to a problematic degree, that’s a you issue. As I said before, I don’t have issues with my controllers.
    
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    makeshift0546@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yet every single one of them work with windows and the respective console. But yeah I’m holding it wrong and it’s a me issue. 🤣
    
    You people who turn a blind eye to Linux desktops issues are hilarious. Like, the hoops you jump through to tell people that their controllers that work everywhere but on Linux distros is crazy. It’s like watching trumpers, just with less catastrophic consequences.
    
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