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But if you go on isthereanydeal.com you will see a whole bunch of online stores that offer sales on games. They offer Steam codes too but are not limited to Steam, they cover many other platforms (including Epic).

(Those btw are all legit sites showing only sales endorsed by the game publishers themselves, they all sell new game codes. ITAD has a standing policy to only source from that kind of sales, strictly no key resale sites.)

So if you can get Steam games cheaper than are currently listed on Steam, and many games are also available on GOG which is DRM free… not entirely sure what this lawsuit is about.

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ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Limited time sales is not what’s being talked about. Those are allowed.

It’s the regular pricing. A game listed on steam needs to make up for their 30% cut. Some other sites take a smaller cut. But multiple game companies have found that trying to list their games on non-steam key selling websites, for less money (because they don’t have to make up for as big a cut) are getting threatened to have their games removed from Steam for doing so. This is well outside any clause in Steam TOS, and would be illegal even if it was covered.

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- imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  
  But multiple game companies have found that trying to list their games on non-steam key selling websites, for less money (because they don’t have to make up for as big a cut) are getting threatened to have their games removed from Steam for doing so.
  
  Has any of these claims been proven yet?
  
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  - ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    They’re still working their way through the courts.
    
    One of them is over two years old, though, so it’s not just a clout chaser blowing hot air based on absolutely nothing.
    
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    imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    
    One of them is over two years old
    
    Which only proves my point. They allegedly do, and we yet to discover if they actually do it or Epic, Ubisoft and whatever another publisher are lying. 2 years to prove if Valve was abusing the system and still nothing out there to confirm this suspicion.
    
    I suspect that is really tough to prove and that is why eventually case will be dropped due to lack of evidence.
    
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atro_city@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Could you share an example of a deal that is less than on Steam? I couldn't find one.

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- lemmyvore@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  It can import your Steam wishlist and give you tons of examples. 😊
  
  Here’s some: Civ 5, Disco Elysium, Yakuza 6, Borderlands GOTY, Outer Wilds, Doom Eternal.
  
  You can also make filters that limit the suggestions to a certain sale percentage (eg. 50%+ off), or to a max price (eg. $10).
  
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  - atro_city@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I looked at the examples you gave and in all of them, Steam has the lowest price
    
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    lemmyvore@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Civ 5 is 30€ on Steam and 2-3€ on other Stores.
    
    Outer Wilds is 23€ on Steam and 16€ elsewhere.
    
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