It’s always been the same for me. When I see the flag I think of football hooligans cheering England.
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brewery@feddit.uk 1 week ago
The English flag being used by racists is not a new thing. In my whole life, outside of a World cup Cup or Euros, if I saw a house, pub or person (anything other than official buildings) with an English flag then I would know to avoid them. I remember where I grew up my bus to school went past a house with about 30 flags around which was on the local news one day. Guess what, the resident was a massive racist and a horrible person.
Flags are great at sporting events but outside of that, even though it is sad, they only really mean one thing and doubt that will change anytime son, if only because its been so ingrained into their racist messaging. Same as British Bulldogs
Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk 1 week ago
thomasshikari@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Same here in the states! Except there are flags in front of essentially every business. You can barely go 3 blocks without seeing multiple american flags. It’s really quite silly. But, a person wearing clothes with an american flag is definitely a (pun intended) huge red flag. I’m sure there are exceptions but from my experience, those are usually the worst people.
Over there, is it more the English flag or the union jack? Or is it a mix of both?
HubertManne@piefed.social 1 week ago
and at every holiday they can bunch of small flags and paper plates and napkins and other trash. its so funny how disrepectful people who love the flag are.
brewery@feddit.uk 1 week ago
Historically it was the English flag but since brexit it’s a mix of both. I have noticed the English nationalists have seemed to join with the Scottish, Welsh and NI nationalists, and outright talking about grouping up that didn’t seem to happen before
Grimtuck@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I had this conversation with a friend of mine who saw a Union Jack and mentioned that they probably vote for Reform but I put my foot down, they don’t get to claim our flag as their own. No way. Not happening. They’re welcome to display the flash but for me it’s a symbol of of multicultural Britain and not of the closest racists party.
brewery@feddit.uk 1 week ago
How do you/we go about reclaiming it though? I’ve thought about it a lot. It has it’s official place - outside buildings, government use, anything with the Royal family etc. It’s got it’s sporting place - union jack for Olympics and British teams, England flag for English team in other sports. Anywhere else you have to assume they’re racist or at a minimum very nationalist, especially after Raise the Flags. In one way, as a brown person it’s helpful to know which places to avoid!
I don’t really don’t want to use the flag outside of international sports, im not going to put it outside my house or business, I don’t carry it around etc
thomasshikari@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Considering what’s going on in Belfast, I’m sure that won’t cause any problems anywhere else in the UK.