World Cup: Can I support England after far-right claimed the flag?

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• brewery@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  The English flag being used by racists is not a new thing. In my whole life, outside of a World cup Cup or Euros, if I saw a house, pub or person (anything other than official buildings) with an English flag then I would know to avoid them. I remember where I grew up my bus to school went past a house with about 30 flags around which was on the local news one day. Guess what, the resident was a massive racist and a horrible person.

  Flags are great at sporting events but outside of that, even though it is sad, they only really mean one thing and doubt that will change anytime son, if only because its been so ingrained into their racist messaging. Same as British Bulldogs

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  • thomasshikari@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Same here in the states! Except there are flags in front of essentially every business. You can barely go 3 blocks without seeing multiple american flags. It’s really quite silly. But, a person wearing clothes with an american flag is definitely a (pun intended) huge red flag. I’m sure there are exceptions but from my experience, those are usually the worst people.

    Over there, is it more the English flag or the union jack? Or is it a mix of both?

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    • HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      and at every holiday they can bunch of small flags and paper plates and napkins and other trash. its so funny how disrepectful people who love the flag are.

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    • brewery@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Historically it was the English flag but since brexit it’s a mix of both. I have noticed the English nationalists have seemed to join with the Scottish, Welsh and NI nationalists, and outright talking about grouping up that didn’t seem to happen before

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  • Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    It’s always been the same for me. When I see the flag I think of football hooligans cheering England.

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• Skyrmir@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Given the nature of symbols, it will really require an effort to reclaim it’s meaning. Possibly an intentional movement to establish a more positive meaning. It’s always easier to tarnish a symbol than to restore one. It can be worth the effort though.

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• moderatecentrist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Perhaps someone who supports the England football team, but who isn’t far-right, could get a flag made with a design like this:

  The cover of the “Official 2026 Calendar” of the England men’s football team. Featured in the design are photos of seven England footballers, with a mixture of ethnic backgrounds and skin tones. At the top of the design is the word “ENGLAND” in capital letters, and the crest of the England football team.

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• HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  us they do the same thing. I have a flag when I protest as im not going to give up that symbology to them. difference is in their protests you will see nazi flags and the confederate flag. its like get lost with that noise.

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