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• whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Why would all of the cars be in one lane before the lane closes? That’s silly

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  • LurkingLuddite@piefed.social ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I hate to break it to you, but you have to merge before the lane closes. If it’s 20 feet or 200 feet, you’re still merging before the lane is closed.

    Guess how fast you eat up hundreds of feet at highway speeds? In seconds.

    If you want traffic to stay at highway speeds, you ALWAYS merge before you HAVE to leave your lane.

    It’s the same principle with on ramps. The people racing up an on-ramp just to wedge into slower trafdic are helping no one.

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    • whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      zipper gif

      I’d you’re talking about doing it at 60 you can still use both lanes as long as you aren’t following the car in front of you dangerously close there’ll already be enough room to merge. Cutting to one lane early is like people who don’t use the on ramp to accelerate and slow everyone down when they merge them accelerate

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      • LurkingLuddite@piefed.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The vast majority of situations where people are making faces at the assholes sitting at the end of the closed lane is when traffic is already over-dense and going slow.

        In those situations, which are often, racing to the end of the closing lane is just being a line-cutting shithead, and has nothing to do with zipper merging. At that point, they’re literally only butting in on through-traffic.

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    • TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hate to break it to you but literally every other country on earth zipper merges and it’s far more efficient

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      • LurkingLuddite@piefed.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes, they’re more efficient. They’re also more efficient than rushing up to the end of a closing lane and merging into an ALREADY FULL through-lane. That is NOT zipper merging. It is cutting in line. That will always, ALWAYS, reduce throughput. Period.

        You cannot cheat physics and human predictability. Rushing to the end of a closed lane WILL NEVER INCREASE THROUGHPUT. Period,

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  • Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because the sign clearly says “lane closure ahead merge now.”

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    • chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No, it doesn’t. It never would, because NHTSA knows that utilizing all lanes during a lane closure reduces backups. Show me a sign where it tells drivers to merge now that isn’t at the actual merge and I will eat a hat

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      • LurkingLuddite@piefed.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It does NOT reduce backups. You cannot magically increase throughput by cramming in before the bottleneck. It can reduce how physically long a backup gets, which can keep backups from growing off of the highway. Though you still cannot magically add throughput by cramming in ahead of a bottleneck. Ever. Period.

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• TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yeah you dumbass. So use both lanes and then zipper merge where they merge

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  • Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    In sorry, but if all the cars are in the open lane and you zoom passed in the closing lane, I’m not going to let you merge. Deal with it.

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    • chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Lane shouldn’t be clear. That’s the issue, here.

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      • Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        OK, that’s not my fault. I just obey traffic. Again, if everyone is in the open lane and you cruise by in the closing lane by yourself, I’m not letting you merge. Obey traffic.

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    • TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Why is the other lane open, that’s the problem.

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