Comment on Why Games Now Take 6+ Years To Make

Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You can go on any gaming forum, including this one, and see people distill a game’s value down to how many hours they get for their dollar, so there’s definitely some amount of truth to it.

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  • emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah and Minecraft is one of the games people have put the most hours into. People want a game that is fun and continues to be fun. That doesn’t require 600 people to do. It requires caring, intention, and understanding of what games actually provide for people. Not just a desire to sell more loot boxes or whatever.

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    • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s a little tangential though. When I’m saying (and Schreier is saying) people are expecting more, they’re expecting Spider-Man or Assassin’s Creed to last longer than 10-15 hours. Someone else already made Minecraft.

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      • emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You’re missing the point. Spiderman and assassins creed have already been made too. And people are tired of buying ‘that game you played last year but shinier and laggier and with 500 more meaningless fetch quests and collectibles to find’. Game companies will likely continue to refuse to realize this and actually innovate though, and will continue to throw more money and more people at their dying IPs with increasingly diminishing returns.

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  • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You’re right, we tend to distill value per dollar - but that’s a 2-dimensional equation: games can either be longer but more expensive - or shorter and cheaper.

    As an extreme example, I have gotten so much value out of games like Minecraft and Vampire Survivors that my cost-per-hour played is in single-digit cents. Neither is pretty (graphically), and both were very cheap early-access titles when I bought them.

    Comparatively, I can’t think of any recent AAA releases have had anywhere near the level of replayability of indie passion projects.

    Bit of a tangent, but I personally think the gaming experience peaked in the PS3/X360 era - and the industry has been largely treading water ever since. Nothing that’s come out over the last two console generations couldn’t have been done on those earlier platforms (albeit with lower graphical fidelity).

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  • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And none of that has to do with poibtlessly high fidelity models that take too much time and people to produce

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    • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It was speaking more to point #3.

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    • ms_lane@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But none of those models are even ‘made’…

      They’re just 3D scanned real objects/people.

      Games are harder to make now due to committees and consultants, that’s it. That’s the whole reason.

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