its really uncomftable fro 11 hours if they do that
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ragingHungryPanda@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 2 days ago
most chairs allow the tray to be upright while the seat is reclined. if the seat wasn’t meant to be reclined, it wouldn’t be able to be reclined. demanding that someone else not perform an action that is permitted to them because you feel that is it is more convenient to you is…well… I’ll let you figure that one out
MrNesser@lemmy.world 2 days ago
ragingHungryPanda@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 2 days ago
🤷 I’ve been on longer flights many times and never had an issue with it.
but we do live in a capitalist society, so perhaps you could pay them to not make use of their own chairs. Yes, I am drinking and am bring a smart ass.
JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Put your seat back, you’ll get more room.
AA5B@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Reclining seats don’t work that way. My knees are still the same place, my lap is still the same place, the tray is still the same place. All of them are infringed upon, even if I pay the entitlement back.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
That has not been my experience at all. In fact could you explain how the person in front of you inconveniences you by reclining their seat?
The only thing I can think of is when someone reclines with a bump and it makes a noise.
ieGod@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Then pay for a better seat.
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
This really is the answer
AA5B@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Personally I see it like …. As a bigger guy, I can easily shove my way through a crowd so I’m not delayed demanding that I not perform that action because it is more convenient for you not to be pushed to the ground is … well … yes, I do feel like it is a good analogy. In both cases an entitled person is physically infringing on close personal space to cause pain and make someone else less comfortable, and potentially damage their devices. The difference is that one of these actions has entitled people thinking it’s ok
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
So if you’ve been waiting in line for something for an hour and I just show up and cut in front of you, you’d be fine with that since there’s no rule or law saying I can’t?
The two of us are in a small elevator and I rip a huge wet fart just as the doors are closing and its all good, right?
This logic is so often used to justify bad behavior. A perfect example is the far-right spreading hate and racism because “free speech.” They make the exact same argument that you’re making right now.
ragingHungryPanda@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 22 hours ago
we’re talking about sitting in a seat, right? 😂
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
Nope we’re talking about reclining back into the space of someone else’s seat. It’s obviously nowhere close to the level of racism (which is why I gave those other more mundane examples first) in terms of importance, but the self-justification is all the same.
ragingHungryPanda@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 22 hours ago
you’re sounding like my parents after they go on a rant about small government and then want to micromanage how other people sit in a seat.
I mean, I understand that Americans are generally allergic to the idea of existing with other human beings and have zero concept of shared space. Frankly, I find this opposition to people reclining in a reclining chair to be comically ridiculous. But as I said before, we live under capitalism. You can always offer to pay them to not do it. Find the market price for not reclining ina reclining chair. It’s a fair trade.