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Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

What makes it fake is presenting it as the work of an individual, as those egotistical peak selfies and tedious biographies frequently do. (General) you didn’t make it to the peak, you were helped along by underpaid locals dragging around all the shit that is keeping you alive, who frequently lose their lives in an effort to support their families so some tech bro can get a selfie. It’s a gross way to spend $30k+.

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auzy1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
You’re being upvoted, but, what experience do you have mountaineering training? Any? Have you even got hiking experience

It feels like you’re just saying stuff that sounds good.

A good company costs 60K minimum, and another 20K if you want 4L of oxygen.

No, you cant just spend 60K and climb either.

You MUST have 7000m experience, which eliminates mountains like Island Peak and Mera (which was the FULL intention), and it means you have experience staying overnight at altitude.

Don’t speak on behalf of the locals. I personally knew 2 different Sherpas who want to climb Everest. One did, the other wanted to (and hopefully has already).

Preparing the camps is a matter of time primarily.

You carry your own gear at 8000m+ which is basically 30% Oxygen, and you cannot acclimatise.

Clients still do many acclimatisation climbs. Getting the camps prepared is basically a matter of time (months).

Whilst I agree a lot of it is just rich people trying to get attention, don’t underestimate the level of fitness it takes. Based on my experience a huge number of people can’t even get to base camp (which is only 5400m). People doing Everest don’t simply wake up and do acclimatisation walks. Even at 6000M, you’re at 40% Oxygen, and its already a bit hard to breath… Every step feels a lot harder

Don’t forget, that a lot of summit guides live at 4000m+, so, they can set up the camps a lot quicker.

Good companies still pay sherpas the FULL amount even if summit/climbing is completely cancelled

I haven’t climbed Everest, but, don’t underestimate the fear of being dropped off in a glacier for the first time, and being told you’ll fall into a crevasse at some point during training. It takes courage too.
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- auzy1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
  Also, one other fact that people don’t realise, is that using oxygen makes it sound like a cakewalk, but its not.
  
  Your breath has water vapour in it that freezes and accumulates. So, you’re even competing with your oxygen mask getting frozen shut apparently at high altitude. At 8000m+ you need it, and to sleep at 8000m, you apparently still need some oxygen, or you gag.
  
  Apparently oxygen bottle theft is also common.
  
  Once you’re at 8000m (camp 4), you’re basically on your own… Yes, its a bigger accomplishment to set up camps and carry everything up, but, it doesn’t mean that even getting to 7000M isn’t a huge achievement (Everest is 8900m).
  
  I am planning to do a 700km walk hopefully within the next year, and, I don’t think anyone is going to downplay it simply because I have done food drops (and had others helping with food drops).
  
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Holyginz@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
And 30k is on the cheap end. I think the average is like 50-60k now. Over 100k if you go with the really high end companies. Its crazy.

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