Comment on In 1992, Sinead O'Connor tore a picture of Pope John Paul II in half during a performance on SNL in protest against generations of abuse toward children within the Catholic church.

Cypher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  30 years later, after some very public mental health struggles. She was a humanitarian with a big heart and a lot of courage. Don’t try a take away from a dead woman’s accomplishments because of personal choices toward the end of her life.

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  • Cypher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Oh no judging a person by… their actions.

    She died a hypocrite.

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    • b00m@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You seem like a person who has no grasp on the nuances of life

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    • Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      She studied theology and was the victim of institutional abuse, she was better educated on this than most and sought out a higher purpose. I can’t denigrate her for that. I’m an atheist but I won’t judge someone who sought refuge from an abusive and horrible past.

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• orcrist@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That’s one description, but in context it’s misleading. If we wanted to talk about Christianity or Judaism we could look at the Bible and find shocking things there as well. And maybe we should. But that’s a totally different discussion from bad things that the Catholic Church did in the 1900s.

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  • Blamemeta@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Jesus was a hippy, who whipped scammers at a temple. Mohommed raped a nine year old and was a warlord.

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    • orcrist@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Exactly. You’re trying to compare things that people probably did 1500+ years ago with things that happened in our lifetimes. There’s no way to attain justice for actions that happened over a millennia ago, and it doesn’t really make sense to try.

      If you want to convince people that organized religion is shit, I think you have a lot of good ammunition on hand, including some of the things that you mentioned. I’m not sure you’re going to turn people off to Islam by mentioning that Muhammad was a warlord, though.

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      • Blamemeta@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        They still worship him, hell they still add “Peace be unto him” after his name, a man who ordered murders.

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  • Cypher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m not interested in a game of whataboutism.

    She willingly joined a cult that worships a pedophile after calling out a cult for shielding pedophiles from justice.

    That’s as straight forward and in context as it gets.

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    • Summzashi@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You literally started the whatsboutism in your original comment there buddy lol

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      • Cypher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I stated a fact, if you have issues with reality I suggest you see a psychiatrist.

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    • EhList@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      A religion with over a billion followers is not a cult.

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      • Cypher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        All religions are cults.

        By the way are you counting all the different sects as a singular group? In some places the cultists would kill you for that.

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• dtrain@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Blocked my first user on Lemmy!

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• DigitalWanderer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  islam?

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