welcome to the club.
Comment on .ml has got to be the only place on earth where I'd get downvoted for a comment like this
flabberjabber@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Totes.
I was banned from socialism on Lemmy.ml the other day.
For providing a detailed post with scientific references demonstrating how the Tibetan language is disappearing (and how the infographic posted was likely propaganda/misinformation).
I had many users respond calling me slurs and none really responding to the body of my post in any way. Then, instead of moderating the bullying, the mod called me a shithead, provided his own references and banned me to prevent me from responding.
The kicker? The references he linked to supported exactly what I was saying! He hadn’t read them.
Also funnily, the mod log states that I infringed “Rule 1”. I checked. Socialism’s rules are still TBD (after 7 years).
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 week ago
flabberjabber@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Ha, yes that’s the actions of a person who has command of the facts and understands the hierarchy of evidence /s
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
“State operated” as opposed to your totally free and unbiased private media that just happens to all be owned by the same 6 guys, sure thing kiddo
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 1 week ago
yeah the typical reason for getting banned is “Rule 1 & 2”, in other words, having an opinion that a mod doesn’t like.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 week ago
no decent human being would ever have different opinions or political views than me.
that would make them indecent!
flabberjabber@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Braid their hair and sing happy campfire songs right? Right??
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
Lol no you didn’t, you didn’t have shit for science you were just being weird and racist
Edie@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
There are instance wide rules. It wasn’t clarified, although it should have been, that it was that.
I’ll let QinShiHuangsShlong point out the problem with your comment
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
I checked that thread, perhaps they mean “liberal” is a slur? /s
flabberjabber@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Wow, I see you following my posts. That’s a bit creepy. But I’ll play.
Since when is calling out a particular nation’s intelligence apparatus racism? In fact I criticised the American government in the paragraph previously. You’ve cut out context to make your actions seem a little more reasonable. Here’s that context:
I see many users on lemmy.ml doing exactly this all the time, but in reverse and being more direct in their description. Usually some kind of combination of “western imperialist country’s liberal intelligence”.
It is not by any measure racism. It’s criticism of a form of government.
Which leads me to my next question: why is it a forbidden topic to talk about the activities of a very powerful and despotic government like the CCP, but in the same breath permitted to fling similar criticism at other countries? I had a user assume I was American in that thread and criticise me based upon it. Ironically I am not. Why was this not also moderated?
Why was I banned for that criticism, and yet the user that called me a shithead (a direct slur) was not?
The more you analyse the actions of any moderator or most lemmy.ml users, the more their hypocracy becomes apparent.
Free speech for me, but not for thee.
Most of my post was a scientific discussion on the loss of the Tibetan language, and proved through academic pieces of research the misinformation/propaganda present in the OP’s infographic.
I think it is much more likely given the apparent hypocracy and duplicity evident in your actions as moderator and my experience with lemmy.ml as a whole, and the experience of the users in this thread which are so numerous, that this was a deliberate burying of that information.
But that’s just my opinion, I have no proof and can’t accept any from you or your team because of the above bad faith that has already been made apparent.
By the way, liberal is a slur used in the same manner as tankie, but by authoritarian communists/socialists. I’m surprised as a moderator of lemmy.ml you’re unaware of this fact.
For clarity’s sake, here’s that original post so that all those that read this can have full context:
spoiler
Can we have some academic references for your claims OP? Here are mine before you ask: Mandarin is now the primary medium of instruction/education for approximately 95% of schools in Tibetan areas, including kindergartens. We have a large body of verified statistics and independent institutions that show this clearly: www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/12/18/7267 hrw.org/…/tibetan-medium-schooling-under-threat right-to-education.org/…/chinas-bilingual-educati… Tibetan educator and researcher Gyal Lo projected that up to 70% of Tibetans in China may lose the ability to speak their mother tongue by 2030 if current trends continue. This projection is supported by a wealth of academic studies: cambridge.org/…/994D3B3CFDFEA96C30F022369F1DB1FD pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29033477/ researchgate.net/…/324778661_Tibet's_Minority_Lan… Also, in terms of the ongoing theme you’re engendering, the idea that Tibetans do not experience oppression or persecution, here’s a summary of most of the ways in which that provably isn’t true. I haven’t referenced these as it would take quite a bit of time; but much of it is well documented and you’re welcome to conduct a literature search if you’d like: -military suppression of uprisings, -political imprisonment, -torture and deaths in custody, -restrictions on religion, -interference in Buddhist institutions, -suppression of Tibetan language, -cultural assimilation policies, -mass surveillance, -censorship and speech restrictions, -forced relocation of nomads, -environmental displacement, -economic discrimination allegations, -coercive labor allegations, -restrictions on travel and foreign access. Many of these same allegations can be levied at governments such as the Americans; but to differing proportions and often historical rather than modern contexted. However, rather than one being preferred, it is my opinion that any immoral and unethical system of government does not deserve the support of the people. The fact that you’re trying to garner support for just another form of tyranny is at the least concerning and at the most likely duplicitous and an attempt at manipulation from said government itself. In other words, in all likelihood, waves at the Chinese intelligence system running this thread.
Edie@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
Take this up with an admin of lemmy.ml, or the moderator of the comm you were banned from.
flabberjabber@lemmy.world 1 week ago
As a moderator of communities on lemmy.ml you have come here unprompted in defense of the indefensible actions of other moderators on Lemmy.ml.
Yet upon explaining how in detail this hypocrisy exists, your response is to verbally shrug as though it’s nothing to do with you and you won’t pass judgement.
Hilarious.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
Nobody’s stalking you fool, being able to conveniently call out bullshit like this with receipts is one of the best parts of online forums, you’re just mad that it’s so easy for anyone to prove you wrong
Comet79@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Tubular was right, then. You do follow around and harass people.
Edie@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
Happening to be in the two threads is following people around? Pointing out when someone is wrong is harrasing them?
Objection@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
This is the absolute worst part of site culture, particularly on .world.
If you talk shit about another user or instance, then checking up on whether it’s actually true or not is not “following around and harassing” it’s just basic fact checking.
This is why I always say, “If someone says something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.” At the very least, it should be disregarded as hearsay. But somehow the culture is that people get to talk shit and if you check them on it you’re the bad guy. How anyone can stand that BS is beyond me.