Comment on Pragmata surpasses 1m copies sold in just two days

• EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Afaik Denuvo doesn’t stop pirates. It only negatively affects the game for people who paid good money for it.

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  • Viceversa@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It stops them for a certain time though. For a time long enough to be economically justifiable.

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    • nullroot@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      As far as I know piracy has never been correlated with a loss of profit from a company, in fact I believe studies have shown piracy boosts visibility and actually slightly positively affects sales.

      My understanding is that those who would pirate the game are unlikely to buy the game regardless and those who would buy the game are likely to follow the path of least resistance, eg buying the game from the store.

      Also denuvo is very hacked and many of the games released with it now have day 1 cracks.

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      • Viceversa@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        My understanding is that those who would pirate the game are unlikely to buy the game regardless and those who would buy the game are likely to follow the path of least resistance, eg buying the game from the store.

        Why do developers pay for Denuvo then?

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    • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It does not. Denuvo is often cracked within hours.

      And, I repeat, piracy is the cause of Denuvo.

      It’s also often the cause of piracy. If your two options are 1. Spend a bunch of money for a worse experience or 2. Spend 0 money for a better experience, there’s no practical reason to choose option 1.

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      • Viceversa@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Denuvo is often cracked within hours.

        Very recently - maybe.

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not anymore with the new HyperVisor bypass.

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• mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Denuvo has a 0-day bypass. It isn’t stopping pirates from playing the game. If you can follow a 5 minute YouTube tutorial, you can bypass Denuvo.

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  • Viceversa@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Up until recently that wasn’t the case.

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• VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You can pirate this game, like pretty much any denuvo title, due to the new Hypervisor bypass.

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  • Viceversa@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You can now. Before that wasn’t the case for a long long time.

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    • WraithGear@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      you keep saying that and you keep having to be told that this is untrue. at this point you really can’t claim ignorance

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      • Viceversa@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Apply simple reasoning: if Denuvo doesn’t work (and actively frowned upon by gamers), why have developers been paying for it?

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