Comment on Guess the director

Steve@communick.news ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yes and no. Vought made a terrorist supervillain for the reasons you described, yes, but they couldn’t control what kinds of powers he’d get. The ones who decided he’d blow himself up were the show writers.

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  • Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Vought has a history of playing into racist stereotypes in the narrative, so they probably overlooked more powerful/capable candidates in whatever experiments they were doing once they got this guy.

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    • ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Sure, that’s possible, but there’s no evidence in the show that they did that.

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      • Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        the-boys.fandom.com/wiki/Naqib

        Yeah you are right he’s the only one, I forgot Homelander got them the dose of V

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    • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      This feels like a thermian argument. In-universe explanations don’t justify racism on the part of the author. Plus, this is The Boys we’re talking about… Kripke had Hughie raped last season because he thought it was funny. Don’t give them any credit

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      • Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Nice reference

        Also I should check more what was in the comics vs the show.

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• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  This supe was specifically made to trick the US into allowing supes into the military. The show got away with it because they’re criticizing the same thing you are.

  It’s a cheap and lazy critique. “We gave the Muslim the Blow Himself Up power, virtually no lines, no real story arc, who is a cheap throw-away useful idiot character to advance a plot that’s mostly about white people grappling for power”.

  The writing isn’t particularly original or compelling anymore. It’s like they just gave up after season 3. Now every episode just an excuse to have Homelander laserbeam people in the dick. Invincible has gone the same way. They’ve substituted gross-out visuals for all but the most basic-bitch “Bad Guys Are Bad, Good Guys Are Annoying and Conflicted” story arcs.

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  • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Invincible has gone the same way

    Yup. It doesn’t have to be written well anymore, as long as they have long, brutal fight scenes to keep fans happy. The animators really have a thing for intestines this season. That said, I have to admit that I am one of those fans that’s kept happy by those long, brutal fight scenes. Everyone on my couch was cheering while ____________ choked the fuck out of __________.

    I think the biggest difference between the two shows for me is that The Boys is despairingly cynical, and Invincible is relatively optimistic. It seems like Robert Kirkman generally likes humanity, and Garth Ennis hates everyone and everything.

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  • Steve@communick.news ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If I recall, this was season 2. Maybe even season 1.

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