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JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 10 hours agoI mean, they did invade Tibet with ground forces and eventually bomb the shit out of them, kidnapped tons of children and killed their parents. Between 10k in the first three days (the tiny tiny tibet army was very overwhelmed) and their government estimates 1.2million tibetens were killed then and during the 220k Chinese soldier occupation, but the actual number is likely more around 87k to 150k, with the remaining number being imprisoned in slave labor camps and the children kidnapped to grow up as “real Chinese” children. Like the indeginous schools in the US and Canada. Things got so bad that according to the PRC’s own reports, over 70% of rural PRC members defected and fought for the rebels. Skeletons clogged the Yellow River one year apparently. But as typical with all imperialism whether western or eastern, the winners try to explain the deaths away as famine when the soldiers steal all of the crops and shoot out the legs of the people, but they “technically” die of starvation or disease.
Then they came and cut all of their old growth lumber (maybe the real end goal?) with massive deforestation and resource harvesting.
But it is no question that China’s current imperialism is economic for 90% of it. It is also by far the lesser of the evils and much much less violent and physically harmful nowadays after 1970 or so.
arrow74@lemmy.zip 8 hours ago
You had me in the first half
Like I know the world is really shitty, but 50 years ago isn’t that long ago. Especially when we’re taking about forgetting a river of skeletons caused by a war of territorial expansion.
Objection@lemmy.ml 6 hours ago
Y’all got some very long, very selective grudges. I feel pretty confident in saying that if the US had been at peace since Vietnam, I’d hate it a hell of lot less.
arrow74@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
Yo you did the thing.
You’re here proving the meme. Both are imperialism both are evil.
Objection@lemmy.ml 6 hours ago
No, they aren’t. One is freeing serfs in a region that’s been part of your country for 200 years and then living peacefully with the world afterwards. The other is waging campaigns of violence and death, covert and overt, across every continent in the world, overthrowing democratically elected leaders in favor of autocrats who will sell out their country’s resources.
There is absolutely no equivalence whatsoever.