Comment on Lemmy.jpeg

Vandalismo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• DeckPacker@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Well, China also is actively committing a genocide against their Muslim minority and invaded Tibet

  source

  • cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Most muslim majority countries do not accuse China of genocide. The states that do make this claim are the same ones that are actively supporting an ongoing genocide against Palestinians. Who should we choose to believe?

    source

    • merdaverse@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Of course Western governments had no hesitation in denouncing genocide in China before a single body was documented. Yet, when people protested against an actual live streamed genocide, supported by these same governments, they were met with beatdowns by police and criminalization.

      Even today, they will still seriously tell you that this is a genocide:

      Image

      And this isn’t:

      Image

      source
  • anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Well, China also is actively committing a genocide against their Muslim minority

    Source?

    source

    • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      If you don’t trust Wiki, you can check any of the ~400 sources linked in the article

      source

      • merdaverse@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The wiki you linked redirects “Uyghur genocide” (which all the people search for due to heavy propaganda) to “Persercution of Uyghurs”. The name of the article was changed, because there is not enough scholarly consensus to define it a genocide. It’s literally in the summary section

        source
      • anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Damn, your own source(s) conflict and never come to consensus on the matter of genocide. Rough.

        Even further, the ICC managed to come to a consensus on the Gaza genocide despite accusations of antisemitism and enormous pushback and sanctions from the US and Israel, but even with the influence peddling from racist and colonialist nations like the US and UK, and testimonies from Uyghurs who left Xinjiang, there’s still never been a consensus that Uyghurs in China were victims of genocide. Extra rough.

        source
  • Vandalismo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    There are 10 chinese ethnicites who are mostly sunni, and they’re alright. And so are tibetans after they ended serfdom.

    source
  • antisoumerde@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    According to the pedophiles who invaded Iran, China is really evil 🤣

    source
  • merdaverse@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Haven’t you heard? It was silently downgraded to a cultural genocide, because there was no actual proof of genocide. Cultural genocide is not recognized by the UN, because Western colonial powers started sweating profusely when Lemkin proposed it.

    source

    • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Cultural genocide is not recognized by the UN

      This is false.

      Article II

      In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

      1. Killing members of the group;
      2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; 3. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; 4. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; 5. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

      Elements of the crime

      The Genocide Convention establishes in Article I that the crime of genocide may take place in the context of an armed conflict, international or non-international, but also in the context of a peaceful situation. (…) The same article establishes the obligation of the contracting parties to prevent and to punish the crime of genocide.

      Bold by me.

      source

      • merdaverse@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        You need to improve your reading skill, because nowhere in the link or your quoted text does it talk about cultural genocide because it has been rejected from the start

        source

        • -> View More Comments
      • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        This article would therefore define ANY war as genocide. (in whole or in part, killing members of the group, and it may even be a “peaceful situation”).

        This would mean the Nazis were genocided by the Allies.

        This would mean Japan’s treatment of Aum Shinrikyo was also a genocide

        and on and on and on

        In other words, it’s shit.

        This is why no one takes them seriously.

        I don’t even like China, but look at this tripe, come on

        source

        • -> View More Comments
• umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  i would ask if we are from the same country but this super common worldwide

  not so coincidentally got a brutal dictatorship in my country from us imperialism too. also killed and tortured folks. the country still hasn’t recovered. on top of the usual economic and political pressure for us to do their bidding.

  china helped build some infrastructure and makes some good deals with us but also bad ones too.

  source