This is the first actually mature and civil (but oppositional) reply to any of my comments here that wasn’t just some obvious fan of one of the antagonistic streamers who constantly are trying to sic their supporters on the guy.
Thank you.
I will watch the video and reply back here (or edit) after watching. I still remain unconvinced he’s abusive of her, but the “using a vibration collar” part being used and a professional pointing it out does give more weight to that specific aspect of the accusation.
JDPoZ@lemmy.world 1 day ago
OK, I watched the video of the dog trainer guy.
Given that the dog trainer says he has absolutely zero context other than what he can see and surmise from the video, and later the vibes and comments as well, I would say that he’s probably just trying to be as objective as possible about whether or not the collar is or could have been a shock collar.
He seems to say that she does NOT seem to be being abused but he could’ve used a vibration collar on her there, but also that it’s a bit of a stretch to think that this guy is swapping out parts to make it look like a vibration collar when it’s secretly an electric shock collar.
The trainer guy said although you never like to hear a dog yelp, he doesn’t think Hasan should be kicked off of “switch” 😅 for the dog yelping in surprise from a vibration IF he indeed did vibrate it on her when she got off the bed.
For the context that is missing in this video though - the dog trainer also seemed to perceive that Hasan was mad at Kaya for getting off the bed because the clip he was provided either had that part removed either on purpose to remove that context in a way that Hasan antagonists would do without hesitation - or more simply (also more likely in my opinion) to save time and not make the trainer have to watch more than the minimum needed to see the immediate before and after parts.
The fact is - that clip does not showing that - in reality - Hasan was NOT angry at Kaya - he was angry about his Internet going out over and over again, and that the frustration from the internet dropping issues was just bleeding over in a way that then appeared like he was mad specifically at Kaya for getting off of her “spot.” Also - the idea she tweaked her paw or got a claw caught on one of the fibers as she stepped seems to be really hard to point out, but the trainer not hearing that explanation as to the possible reason why she yelped also seems kind of unfair as well.
Apparently, the other thing that is coincidental is that Hasan says in the controversy-addressing video that he was reaching for a “Zyn tin” at the time - not some “shock collar remote.” <- (at the very end of this clip)
I believe it, because in other non-staged photos captured by 3rd party articles about him, Hasan seems to always have multiple Zyn tins stacked up in that same spot him where he said that’s what he was reaching for. Image
That seems to align - again - with what was claimed later when Hasan addressed the “controversy.”
On another note though, just want to say I can’t believe 6 months after this smear job people want to fucking do a forensic analysis of this AGAIN just to clear up something that - if you watch any of the clips where he is doing stuff with the dog - the guy honestly looks like he absolutely loves the dog.
boomzilla@programming.dev 21 hours ago
I’ve read your posts and the ones of those you had the pleasure to talk to. I appreciate your comittment to the fight against dis-info. I’ll just answer to both of your comments with this comment and hopefully keep it short because I hate this whole topic and how much time this all sucks out of our lifes just because we succumb to culture wars and being the instruments of those inciting them.
First. I think I’m not parasocial. I just watch him (like most of us I guess), because he gives us easy consumable but knowledgeable insights into complicated historical and current geopolitical events. I picked up quite a few topics and read up on them I wasn’t aware of before I started watching him.
Him reporting and exposing himself on political events talking to the base and doing interviews with a lot of progressive politicians shows he is far from the sheltered grifting political arm-chair commenter, haters here and in the highest circles of spin-doctoring want him to paint as.
As you sharply described in your post with the “and yet you participate in society” meme, I’d too rather watch political analyses by someone whose opinions match my personal ideas of a just world, him being a millionaire or not. Bernie Sanders is a millionaire too, I guess, but I love listening to him as well. And opposed to consumers of content from real grifters, I don’t think I’ll ever be a millionaire.
Heck, Hasan interviewed two billionaires with political ambitions recently who had surprisingly progressive views and plans. Yes nobody should be a billionaire but if they at least really want to do good with their money, they can live. See MacKenzie Scott. And those claiming Hasans trip to Cuba was just egocentric self-promotion, has no idea how much he burns for recitifying the injustice Cubans are exposed to by the US.
OMG. Now it has become a wall of text again and I haven’t even addressed any points of your observations on the video. I agree with you in what you wrote. Yes the dreaded internet problems and him being jet-lagged wouldn’t justify him mishandling his dog. But as the trainer pointed out, he wasn’t doing this at all even when he slightly yelled at her. Yes the clips he reacted to were very condensed and didn’t show any of the million of interactions he had with his dog clearly showing he’s a reponsible handler.
But it all doesn’t matter anyway, as we all know this is all part of a big political assassination campaign and the critics bringing this up care as much about Kaya as they care about the animals they have on there plates (as Hasan too does, btw).