Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m a fan of Batman, but the whole Batman concept doesn’t work anymore.
Bruce Wayne is the 1%. Batman is working with the police. In the 40s, the police were thought of as “the good guys”. Today, I’d rather be stuck in a dark ally with the Joker than the cops.
To me the whole premise no longer plays. I’d like to see a more adult Batman adeptation which plays into modern viewpoints.
Superman just did this brilliantly in the movie last summer. Batman could still be the same. HE thinks he’s the good guy. But he’s still Bruce Wayne, the 1%.
The cops would act as actual cops do. Corrupt. Cover for each other. Essentially the only legal gang in gotham, but just that. A gang.
Gordon can be an elder cop. The good one amongst the corruption of the other cops. Despite being chief of police, he still doesn’t have the ability to control the whole force.
And each of the major villians control their own gang. Except for Bane, who’s basically just a 1 man army. And Killer Croc, who’s basically just a mutant. Not evil per se, but just an animal. Just like the T-Rex in Jurassic Park. Not a villian, but still a deadly threat if encountered.
Sorry, I like Alfred as an old man mentor/caretaker roll. I always thought they should have made a movie where Alfred was dying, and it emotionally distracts Bruce from being Batman. Thus causing the city opinion to turn heavily against Batman. Thinking he’s just letting chaos happen and working with the corrupt cops.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 23 hours ago
I’m gonna recommend Moon Knight as the best version of Batman without the bootlicking.
✔️ Gadgets ✔️ Martial arts ✔️ Detective work ✔️ Mental issues ✔️ Fear tactics ❌ Billionaire (He made his millions working as a mercenary, which he’s now trying to atone for) ❌ Ableism (No “criminally insane” BS, and the best runs explore accurate mental illness) ❌ Copaganda (The cops have standing orders to arrest Moon Knight, so if he wants to work with the cops, he has to dress up as Mr Knight) ❌ Child endangerment ❌ Gay jokes about Robin
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
That sounds AWESOME!!! I will have to look for that.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 22 hours ago
The Warren Ellis run from 2014, collected in the From The Dead volume is the best Moon Knight made in the last 45 years.
tmyakal@infosec.pub 18 hours ago
Unfortunately, then you need to buy a book written by a sexual predator.
PixelNomad@sopuli.xyz 12 hours ago
I hope you have this same energy for literally every single superhero in the DC universe because the Teen Titans literally exist because almost all the justice league members have child sidekicks.
Lumidaub@feddit.org 12 hours ago
I love that THAT is the part you take issue with.
PixelNomad@sopuli.xyz 12 hours ago
Again, it’s clear you aren’t an actual fan of Batman, DC Comics, or Marvel in general. I know this because the argument you have for Batman doesn’t apply to any other superhero who is richer than him, or any other superhero with a sidekick. It’s always ‘Batman endangers children,’ despite the fact that the entire Justice League endangers children too.
But if you would like, James Gunn can write Bruce Wayne adopting Dick Grayson at 25 years old, and Dick can become Robin while being adopted as a grown man—if that’s what you want. In fact, all the Teen Titans can be 30+ year-old sidekicks if you want, just so we don’t ‘endanger children.’
Funny how you didn’t bring up Daredevil in this list, because in Season 2 of Born Again, he’s fine with Hector’s niece—who’s like 13 years old—being White Tiger, despite her uncle getting killed doing it. Matt had no qualms about it.
So your arguments aren’t worth engaging with. And Absolute Batman is so badly written—because if he’s dirt poor, how the hell does he afford his suit, gadgets, materials for armor, and a supercar? If he’s poor, then you need to explain how he’s doing all this.
And if Martha is alive, then why should I take Absolute Batman seriously at all? And why have Batman keep a no-kill rule? He’s basically just The Punisher now, so you might as well go all in—give him a bunch of guns and have him start shooting every criminal he sees. If he’s Punisher, then just go full Punisher.