Lmfao no, I think both are disgusting hypocrites. I don’t hitch my opinions to streamers. I don’t remember you but I bet you were saying dumb shit
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bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 day ago
Omg you’re that guy who came in to argue with me about liberalism in the other thread, it makes complete sense that you’re a “fuck Hasan” guy. Are you an Asmongold fan?
Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 day ago
bearboiblake@pawb.social 21 hours ago
I don’t hitch my opinions to streamers in any way.
Neither do I - actually, kind of the opposite! Hasan represents a voice which spreads many of my my long-held beliefs to millions of people. I only started watching him pretty recently, after hearing a bunch of criticism and deciding to check him out myself and being pleasantly surprised, but I’ve been far-left since I was a teenager. I disagree with him on many issues, and I’ve even argued with him on his stream. I’ve seen him actually get closer to my beliefs over time, which is very nice to see.
I don’t remember you but I bet you were saying dumb shit
I was saying what I always say - that capitalism inevitably leads to fascism and that liberalism is a shield to capitalism.
How does capitalism inevitably lead to fascism?
>Basically, the issue with capitalism is that the more wealth you have, the easier it is for you to make more money. And since money can be used to buy goods, services and influence, there is always a way to use money to gain more political and social power. With that political and social power, you can push society and the legal system in the direction you want to go. So you can use your wealth to gain power, and then you can use your power to change laws and society so that you can make even more wealth and power. It’s a positive feedback loop. > >Obviously, though, if the billionaires and ruling class are accumulating more and more of our society’s wealth, that inevitably means that there’s less for everyone else to go around - therefore, working class people feel poorer and poorer. Meanwhile, the economy is going absolutely great for rich people, so inflation continues to go up - everything gets more expensive, but wages don’t increase. The wealthy just keep more and more of the wealth for themselves. To accumulate more and more wealth, they change the laws so that they can avoid paying taxes, so public services collapse. Politicians are lobbied to ensure that public funds are diverted away from where it is most needed - housing, healthcare, transportation, infrastructure - and instead into industries where their class interests most benefit from it, such as weapons manufacturing and extractive industries such as fossil fuels and mining. > >The working class are bound to notice that their lives are getting shittier and shittier, and if that situation is left unchecked, the working class would realize that the ruling class are fucking them over, rise up, and overthrow their rulers. Obviously, the ruling class need to do something about this, but there’s no solution that the ruling class can offer. They’re causing all of the problems, to fix them they’d have to give up some of their wealth and power - and that’s not something they’re going to do. So they need to find someone else to blame the problems we have in society on. Unfortunately, though, no matter who they blame the problems on, and no matter what they do to “fix” it, the issue will continue to persist, because the material conditions underlying the issues are, very intentionally, never addressed. > >So, the conundrum returns: The ruling class said that minority A caused all of the problems, minority A is persecuted and oppressed, but society doesn’t actually get any better. Either the problem wasn’t minority A, or minority A just hasn’t been oppressed enough yet. So the ruling class can either escalate the oppression, or they can shift the focus to another minority group. The division continues to escalate in terms of how vitriolic and extreme it is, and it also continues to divide the working class into smaller and smaller groups. > >To get the working class to buy into this hateful message, they need to take advantage of our worst instincts, and one of those instincts is the in-group bias. The majority are manipulated into being suspicious, then intolerant, then hateful, then violent, then genocidal, towards whatever the targeted minority of the day is. Anything that can be used to divide the working class - sexuality, nationality, immigration status, ethnicity, religion, sex, gender identity, age, all of these will be used as wedges to keep the working class split apart and not working together, because they know that if the working class actually unite against them, they are completely and truly fucked. > >That’s exactly how fascism manifests. It’s because it’s possible for people to accumulate power through wealth. This is why capitalism must be abolished. If we do not abolish capitalism, fascism will always return. It’s just a matter of time.
But can't capitalism can be reformed?
> While, of course, some laws to reform capitalism can be passed, and would definitely alleviate the worst harm caused, over the long term, capitalism cannot be reformed. > > Any attempts to reform, democratize or socialize capitalism may yield short term improvements to quality of life of the working class, but if capitalism is not abolished, it will always reassert itself, and capitalism inevitably leads towards fascism. > >The New Deal prevented the US from sliding into fascism in the 20th century, so that’s ultimately a good thing, but it did not go far enough, and that’s why we have the resurgence of fascism in the 21st century America.
But the Soviet Union was really oppressive!
> Yeah, the soviet union had a lot of problems, Stalin was a psycho. Let’s not do that, but we can do socialism using a bottom-up, direct democratic, consensus based decision making approach, rather than a top-down, centralized state. We can learn from the mistakes of the past. > >I’d encourage you to check out an anarchist FAQ to learn more - If you haven’t heard much about anarchism before, you probably have some misconceptions about it, so I encourage you to watch the Q&Anarchy video series by Thought Slime or have a look through an Anarchist FAQ, because it’s almost definitely nothing like what you think. > > I personally believe that it’s the most coherent philosophy which adequately explains and addresses all of the problems which plague our society, and which holds the most promise for a path out of the inevitable cycle of the continuous rise and fall of fascism that capitalism makes inevitable.
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Dunno about him, but I am. What about it?
bearboiblake@pawb.social 21 hours ago
Thanks for responding and for your honesty. I’m really curious about a few things, I hope you don’t mind if I ask you some questions and maybe we can chat a little? I’m not interested in judging you or shaming you or anything like that, but I would love to understand you.
- What got you into watching Asmongold?
- Did you have any strong political/ideological positions/beliefs before you started watching him?
- What are your political/ideological positions/beliefs now?
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
What got you into watching Asmongold?
He’s just funny. Also I don’t like modern trends in modern gaming and shows, and he’s not afraid to call them out and ridicule them.
Did you have any strong political/ideological positions/beliefs before you started watching him?
I was always pro free market and anti communism. It didn’t change at all. I’d say I was against any immigration barriers before watching him, but I shifted towards moderate barriers (working people only, instant deportation for crime) but that wasn’t just only his influence.
I tried watching Hasan before, but for someone who grew up in powerty in broken post communist economy, his pro communist stance is just pure cringe to me.
Additionaly Asmon sometimes tells about his life hacks and ways to cheat the system which is all too familiar considering my childhood life. I sort of identify with him, maybe?
bearboiblake@pawb.social 14 hours ago
Thanks very much for the honest reply :)
He’s just funny.
That’s fair, how long have you been watching him for?
I don’t like modern trends in modern gaming and shows
Which trends bother you the most?
for someone who grew up in powerty in broken post communist economy, his pro communist stance is just pure cringe to me.
I totally get that. I’m guessing you’re from an ex-USSR republic in Eastern Europe, or somewhere around there, right? My partner is Estonian, so I have a lot of understanding and sympathy with this.
I’m glad you have someone you enjoy and identify with.
I’m also wondering a little about how you feel about things like the cost of living crisis - do you feel impacted by that? Not sure where you’re from or what you do for work etc. but have you experienced issues with public services getting worse, prices going up faster than wages, struggling to buy a home, things like that?
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
what the fuck? where did i do this? and no, i’m not an Asmongold fan. i think ALL streamers are scumbags and part of the problem. Hasan is the most least part of the problem, however i still dislike him
bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 day ago
huh? I wasn’t directing this comment at you at all, what made you think it was directed at you?
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
Is this… Not a DM? It’s appearing on my end as DMs? Where are you seeing it?
bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 day ago
Oh wow, that’s really strange! No, I wrote it as a top-level comment on this post.
Hupf@feddit.org 1 day ago
This is a comment on a lemmy.world post with a different author.
What client are you using?
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Both sides.🤡
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
not what i’m saying, but whatever