Comment on it's a matter of motivation
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
These are all things that people enjoy doing though, and there is a certain amount of glory in doing them.
Do you think your plumber or electrician would be willing to work for free?
bearboiblake@pawb.social 4 days ago
Yes, of course. If you lived in a society where everyone contributed their labor freely in return for access to all of the fruits of the labour of others, wouldn’t you be happy to work as a plumber or an electrician in that society? We work to pay our bills, but if we didn’t have bills, if everyone was just provided for, by default, why would you need to be paid to work? Why wouldn’t you want to give back to a system that gives so much benefits to you?
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Because you’re dealing with literal human faeces, that’s why.
bearboiblake@pawb.social 4 days ago
Okay? I’d rather do that than eat it from the rich. It’s not like you can’t wear protective equipment or anything. Heck, give me a set of coveralls and I would wade waist-deep in a septic tank on the daily in return for a society that has no homelessness, no famine, no medical debt, universal access to healthcare and education, to live in a world without pedophile billionaires and corporations constantly fucking us all over for a percentage. Do you really not see how that would be a better world?
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Even if you would be willing to do that, I doubt there would be enough to make a system like this work.
There’s a reason plumbers are so well paid.
PattyMcB@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Socialism > communism
percent@infosec.pub 4 days ago
Some people have to dress up in a special suit and swim through raw sewage to repair a big pump - and they have to do it blindly because the sewage is opaque.
Some people have an even dirtier job: They have to clean off that guy’s shitty suit before he can take it off. They might have to do it multiple times if he needs to come out to take another look at schematics.
They do it because it pays very well. It pays very well because nobody wants to do it.
bearboiblake@pawb.social 4 days ago
I’d do it in a heartbeat if we got to live in the world I outlined above, and so would many others, because we all want to live in a society that has functioning waste treatment facilities, and someone has to do it.
percent@infosec.pub 4 days ago
Maybe many would, but also, many would not.
In a society in which everyone can choose whatever career they want, all for the same “pay”/outcome/whatever it’s called in a moneyless society, I would bet that most people would choose not to do these things.
When the demand for such tasks outweighs the number of people who are both willing and skilled to do those jobs, what can be done to meet the demand?
Btw, I’m not asking rhetorically - I’m genuinely curious. If there isn’t enough people to serve such an important job for society, what can be done?
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
And this goober thinks people are willing to do it for the love of society.
Nah mate.