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RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Nope.

There will be an exact egg that contains the first chicken (defined as an animal that can fuck other chickens and produce offspring IIRC), that came before the first chicken because the chicken was in the egg.

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MrSmoothPP@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I’m no biologist, but I’m pretty sure this ignores how fluid the evolution is from regular bird to proto-chicken to chicken.

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- howrar@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  By the well ordering theorem, no matter what you choose as your definition of “chicken”, there must be a first.
  
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- RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Not really there is a well defined line that defines what is/isn’t a chicken, that’s really the only thing needed for this question.
  
  The issue is the term proto-chicken isn’t well defined.
  
  But for it to be considered a different species it would have to not be able to reproduce with a modern chicken (which doesn’t mean it can’t reproduce with early chickens).
  
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  - Typhoon@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    
    there is a well defined line that defines what is/isn’t a chicken
    
    You’ll have no problem citing the exact definition then.
    
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    RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    
    The chicken (Gallus gallus domesticus) is a domesticated form of the red junglefowl (Gallus gallus), originally native to Southeast Asia. It was first domesticated around 8,000 years ago and is one of the most common and widespread domesticated animals in the world. Chickens are primarily kept for their meat and eggs, though they are also kept as pets.[1]
    
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken
    
    The red junglefowl (Gallus gallus), also known as the Indian red junglefowl (and formerly the bankiva or bankiva-fowl), is a species of tropical, galliform bird in the phasianid family, found across much of Southeast and parts of South Asia.
    
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_junglefowl
    
    A species (pl. species) is the basic unit of classification and a taxonomic rank of an organism, as well as a unit of biodiversity. It can be defined as the largest group of organisms in which any two individuals of the appropriate sexes or mating types can produce fertile offspring, typically by sexual reproduction.
    
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species
    
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