Comment on Has society or scientists ever solved definitively the Chicken and the Egg theory? Or is it just like a whose on first thing?

• BarHocker@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Then go one generation further back until the laying bird statisfies your “not chicken” criteria.

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• RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Nope.

  There will be an exact egg that contains the first chicken (defined as an animal that can fuck other chickens and produce offspring IIRC), that came before the first chicken because the chicken was in the egg.

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  • MrSmoothPP@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’m no biologist, but I’m pretty sure this ignores how fluid the evolution is from regular bird to proto-chicken to chicken.

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    • howrar@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      By the well ordering theorem, no matter what you choose as your definition of “chicken”, there must be a first.

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    • RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Not really there is a well defined line that defines what is/isn’t a chicken, that’s really the only thing needed for this question.

      The issue is the term proto-chicken isn’t well defined.

      But for it to be considered a different species it would have to not be able to reproduce with a modern chicken (which doesn’t mean it can’t reproduce with early chickens).

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      • Typhoon@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        there is a well defined line that defines what is/isn’t a chicken

        You’ll have no problem citing the exact definition then.

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