Comment on Save me from going down a dark path
1984@lemmy.today 4 days agoMy logic is just fine. Im wondering how yours are, if you think science is the only way to measure if something is useful to a human being.
Comment on Save me from going down a dark path
1984@lemmy.today 4 days agoMy logic is just fine. Im wondering how yours are, if you think science is the only way to measure if something is useful to a human being.
kofe@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I’m confused what you’re saying science would say is useless. Having meaning? Cuz that’s well supported in psychology. There are many ways to develop meaning in our lives. Science is just a method that helps us figure out what is effective. Spirituality can be effective in helping to form meaning, sure, but people need alternatives if or when it fails.
1984@lemmy.today 3 days ago
Science would say spirituality is useless, even ridiculous, because it cant find evidence for a soul.
kofe@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Again though, science is a tool. I’m not sure where you’re getting this idea that “science would say [spirituality is] useless.”
Also yes, there are studies showing some respond positively. Not everyone. I turned to atheism after decades of screaming to a god that I’ve determined doesn’t exist to help me — so yeah, it’s useless and was even negative in effect for me. But there are hypotheses that holding affirmative beliefs on it has been an evolutionary trait passed down to help the species survive, because we like having answers and what happens after death can’t be answered. Which goes to your point about how we can’t necessarily find evidence for everything we might have questions on. If we can’t find answers we may make things up to quell the discomfort the lack of one can bring to maintain reason to keep living.
1984@lemmy.today 3 days ago
I have a friend who i sometimes discuss these things with. He has exactly the same view as you here - traits being passed down to help the species survive. You know why its the same? Because this is what science says about it. And if you read science, you will believe the same things. Its not even your own thoughts.
I just find that interesting. But I also realize the same can be said for spirituality. If you ask someone what they believe, its always a carbon copy of what is popular to believe in those circles.
Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Im pretty sure op said that. He said the religious aspects of AA help some ppl and they’re right. The issue is ppl act like their arent a-religious alternatives which their clearly are