Comment on Mission to the Cloud Server

• JayGray91@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Meanwhile Big Tech’s backbone are mostly libre software

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  • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Big tech is at a scale where it’s cheap to do an in-house solution. Amazon maintains its own distribution for internal Amazon systems

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    • RamenJunkie@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And Government isn’t at scale? Its the biggest scale.

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      • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Government is also smaller than big tech, at least tech wise.

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      • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        No. Many different organizations with their own requirements.

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• ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Usually it’s because Windows is way cheaper to use.

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  • BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How is Windows (which costs money) cheaper than Linux (which is free)?

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    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      More support is needed when switching workplaces to Linux as people are familiar already with Windows.

      But will that remain the same? People are already using computers less in their personal lives.

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    • Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because businesses need support. They need to be able to rely on others to quickly get everything back in order or they lose money.

      And since Linux does not have any (except for RedHat), they would need to have that support in-house. Which is a lot more expensive and still does not give all the expertise that big companies like Microsoft have.

      For consumers it is free, but for businesses it costs a lot more money than using corporate standard software.

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      • D1re_W0lf@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Probably the biggest source of income for open-source companies, is exactly providing support and similar services.

        • https://ubuntu.com/support
        • https://nextcloud.com/enterprise/
        • https://www.collaboraonline.com/subscriptions/

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      • withabeard@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        20+ years in industry as a UNIX and Linux admin. Informed but potentially biased.

        Linux admins have tended in my career to be more expensive. They tend to be more week rounded as engineers. Linux by it’s nature, especially in the past, required you to be a DBA, network admin, server admin, developer all in one. They can often fix problems quicker than the support engineer elsewhere can read the ticket.

        That means you pay more per engineer, MBAs don’t like this. This is a critical problem. You pay less overall in staff costs because you need less staff, MBAs don’t understand this. MBAs like support contracts so they can offset blame.

        A small, concise, tight nit, well payed admin team who have ownership and care about a product will be cheaper, and have more uptime than the alternatives. But they’ll also be obstinate, high payed, entitled and ready to jump ship if you mistreat them. That means you need actual diplomacy and social skills to manage them well.

        A small tight nit team with product ownership will need a kick up the arse at times to change “what ain’t broke”. So when product requirements need a radically different solution that can take time to change.

        There is a reason that industry breaking startups in the early 2000s had their corporate backbones on Linux.

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    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Less people use it which increases wages of the people that know it.

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