Comment on What happened to LineageOS? Has it been replaced by GrapheneOS?

Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The pixel device is (as far as I’m aware) the only mainstream device that allows you to re-lock the boot loader.

  Otherwise, once a phone is cracked, it remains cracked. I’m not entirely sure what that buys, but that’s why they do it

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  • afunkysongaday@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Most brands allow relocking bootloader. But after that you with be only able to use stock rom. Pixel lets you lock the bootloader with a different signature, so in this example you are basically able to lock it to only boot grapheneos and nothing else.

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  • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Security. You’re caught with your pants down if you have any personal data on a phone with an unlocked bootloader. All data is effectively plaintext, all security is nullified with trivial difficulty. This is the actual worst-case scenario for journalists, whistleblowers, or anyone who is or may become under surveillance for any reason.

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    • Username@feddit.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s wrong, data is still usually encrypted.

      A locked bootloader ‘just’ prevents tampering with the OS. You’re only pwned when using the phone after it has been manipulated.

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      • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah but if you have the phone with an unlocked bootloader and anyone gains access to it (physical or otherwise)…

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  • ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They also have an accessible secure element that graphene uses a lot. I’d recommend listening to the podcast interviews with graphene staff

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• throwaway12345678@monyet.cc ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This isn’t true at all. Daniel Micay has stated multiple times the goal isn’t to degoogle, it’s to provide a secure and private OS. They worked tirelessly to integrate GMS compatibility layer and give users the choice to install sandboxed Google play for app compatability.

  GrapheneOS has said countless times that by using Linux and other open source softwares that Google contributes massive amounts of code, you ARE inherently trusting them to not be malicious nitter.1d4.us/GrapheneOS/…/1672998518573740033#m

  Google play does what it says and they are very open about what data they collect, which is obviously a lot. GrapheneOS stops much of this collection through sandboxing, where you can deny any permissions you desire.

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• wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  G provides a phone that is incredibly friendly to developers (as friendly as it can get without free hookers and blow), in all aspects, which makes sense considering they want devs to adopt android as their platform for apps and stuff. This also goes into things like security vulnerabilies/research, and also alternative android-based systems. It’s humorous but not at all ironic. Be friendly to devs, and make money hand over fist because of it.

  It’s logical for both, just for very different motives.

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