2 is false. It only applies to steam keys.
gmtom@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
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Being a simp for a multi billion dollar company is never a good thing. It’s not good for you as a consumer and, frankly, is just incredibly cringe.
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No, it’s not, the main point of the lawsuit is that Steam does not let game Devs sell their game for cheaper on any other platform.
So if you don’t like that Steam takes a massive 30% cut of your sales so that Gabe can buy his 27th mega-yatch, and you decide to also put your game on another platform that takes a fairer, smaller cut, then chose to pass on those savings to the consumer, then valve will kick you off the platform and you’ll lose access to by far the biggest market in PC gaming.
Fuck valve and fuck you brain dead fanboys simping for a billionaire and making everything worse for the rest of us because your entire worldview comes from memes.
verdigris@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It only applies to steam keys.
A steam key is the receipt that you paid for the game. It is ridiculous that companies get to skirt laws by saying, “It’s on a computer.”
Imagine you buy a car. Years later you go to resell it for less and the manufacture claims you can’t because the sales receipt that proves you are the legitimate owner is a “Steam Cars Inc key” and therefore all existing laws do not apply.
verdigris@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Yeah that’s not what they’re preventing. It’s to stop someone with rights to generate keys, i.e. the developer, from generating a lot of Steam keys and then selling them on their own site at a discount, which is basically leeching off of the Steam infrastructure & ecosystem while sidestepping the storefront. Which is fine as long as they don’t undercut.
The EULA for any software you’ve ever paid for is what forbids resale.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s to stop someone with rights to generate keys
If it was only about developers then consumers could have the right to resell their game at whatever price they wanted.
Nikls94@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Wrong topic but I feel the same about online age verification. All my friends and family and everyone I know say it’s good for the children and I’m here like wtf
beejboytyson@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Those are the same ppl that don’t give a fuck about the files I bet.
Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
You’re just simping for a different billionaire out here regurgitating Tim Sweeney’s talking points verbatim…
gmtom@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Supporting consumer rights is basically the exact opposite of simping for billionaires actually.
Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
True, which is why it is so easy to tell which one you are doing. :)
gmtom@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So you genuinely, seriously think the only reason I support this is because I have some random obsession with the person running the lawsuit, and nothing to do with wanting better right for consumers?
sartalon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This is a very narrow viewpoint that is borderline disingenuous.
You blame OP for being a simp, BECAUSE OF A MEME, then argue the plaintiff’s narrative without any critical breakdown or context.
You are not any better.
There is a lot of nuance here that you just ignore.
Valve is not using their resources to prevent/undermine competition.
Valve’s percentage is absolutely worthy of debate, but does not make them a monopoly.
I will state that I support Valve when it comes to the big releases, but definitely wish they tiered their fees to support smaller developers.
I get why they do it, but I wish they were a bit friendlier to the smaller developers
If the other companies used a platform that was even remotely close to the ease of use as Steam, I might feel differently, but they don’t
I have lost access to several titles because of these companies’ “competing” platforms.
Valve provides a service that is critical and beneficial. And in a way that these other companies seem incapable or unwilling to provide.
They are not preventing them from doing it in any way.
They just don’t want to get undercut on products that use their service. That is a valid argument.
Maybe if other companies didn’t create such bloated, underperforming crapware, they wouldn’t feel forced to use Steam.
And smaller developers aside, these companies already suck so much money out of the user/buyer as they can and are not passing that revenue to the actual software developer, while Valve does share its revenue with its employees, despite your claim that Gabe is buying his “27th yacht”.
gmtom@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The argument that valve has a monopoly because their platform is just so amazing and all the others is trash is exactly the simping behaviour I’m talking about.
If steam wasn’t already considered the default and valve didn’t have this insane cult of personality around Gabe Newell, steam would be considered mostly on par with other providers.
We as consumers let valve get away with so much bullshit because of “omg lord gaben and his summer sales! My wallet isn’t ready XD” types.
Like valve had to be sued into have a returns policy, they popularised predatory loot box mechanics and pushed an entire gambling based economy on children and made ludicrous amounts of money from it, popularised early access and asset flip slop, caved to the whole MasterCard censorship campaign
sartalon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So my experience accounts for nothing?
So even though I’ve lost access to multiple titles because other software companies can’t get their shit together and were a terrible experience, I’m not allowed to use that as an example of why Valve has become the standard?
But any argument against your opinion is “simping”.
Do you even hear yourself?
What you are doing is a form of manipulation and gaslighting.
Those things Valve was sued over were also industry standard practices.
Your argument is awash with emotional outbursts which tells the real story here.
You’ve picked a side for one reason or another and just make bad arguments, trying to support it.
Show me a single game company, of that size, that HASN’T been sued. Since that seems to be your metric of what makes a company so evil.
gmtom@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So my experience accounts for nothing?
No, hence why I never said that.
So even though I’ve lost access to multiple titles because other software companies can’t get their shit together and were a terrible experience, I’m not allowed to use that as an example of why Valve has become the standard?
I’ve lost access to titles on steam.
But any argument against your opinion is “simping”.
Again not what I said. I’m saying that people ignoring all the negative shit valve has done and continues to do out of pure fanboyism, are simps.
What you are doing is a form of manipulation and gaslighting.
You are both hilariously overdramatic and just deranged.
Those things Valve was sued over were also industry standard practices.
Nope. And this is what I was talking about, you can’t even say “yeah that was a shitty thing valve did” you instead have to fervently defend every shitty practice anyway you can to protect your favourite multi billion dollar company.
Your argument is awash with emotional outbursts which tells the real story here.
Projecting in 4k. Or is yelling that I’m “”“gaslighting”“” you by saying Valve isn’t a good company just pure cold logic, lol.
Show me a single game company, of that size, that HASN’T been sued. Since that seems to be your metric of what makes a company so evil.
My guy. Are you honestly illiterate? Or are you so hopped up on fanboyism that it’s altering your basic perceptions of reality?
Either way I’m done wasting my time listening you do this.
architect@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
It’s exactly what Amazon does. Super easy to get around by offering different versions.
I doubt they win against Steam since all of ecommerce does this and Steam is not the worst.
If they do win that would imply Amazon needs to comply and that would be amazing so no way that’s happening.
ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
This is accurate and the fact that so few feel this way, really does provide clues as to why the USA has become suck an evil monster.
WraithGear@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
no it’s not! i have bought games off other services and even from the devs own web site because it was cheaper. you just can’t sell STEAM KEYS which use steams service for cheaper then what it’s sold for in stream.