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520@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

But if his actions are necessary, by definition, that's not recklessness. Recklessness involves a complete disregard for other, better options. If those options don't exist, you can't exactly call him reckless for it.

His actions in the beginning of TLJ actually improve the odds of the Rebellion considerably, even factoring in the loss of their bombers.

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prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Poe was a pure good aligned Han Solo.

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Skua@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
What he did doesn't show that he wasn't reckless just because it was necessary though. I'm saying he clearly wanted to do those things whether they were the right move or not, it's just fortunate for him that they were generally good moves most of the time

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- 520@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  But that's the thing, they were good moves at the time. At no point is Poe provided a safer, better option for him to disregard in favour of a risky move. So we don't have the information needed to call him reckless, even if he has no qualms about the risky approach.
  
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  - Skua@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    His enthusiasm for the danger made it pretty clear to me. But even then, what you're describing is just a lack of evidence for recklessness, not evidence against him being reckless. Nothing he did in TFA suggests to me that he wouldn't have done what he did in TLJ, it's just that in TLJ the situation didn't work out so well for him
    
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    520@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    His enthusiasm for the danger made it pretty clear to me. But even then, what you're describing is just a lack of evidence for recklessness
    
    Exactly. This makes it confusing when the TLJ tries to call him reckless, because there's been no evidence to suggest that, either in this film or the previous.
    
    Nothing he did in TFA suggests to me that he wouldn't have done what he did in TLJ, it's just that in TLJ the situation didn't work out so well for him.
    
    In TLJ, he's trying to prevent the entire rebellion from getting smoked by two dreadnoughts. Taking out one of them halves the firepower being aimed at them. The rebellion would have been obliterated had Poe not done what he did, Holdo maneuver or no.
    
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