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Comment on It's sad that people completely misunderstand what Star Trek is about.

The new trek was cancelled because some people hated it and had outside influence.

So thanks, those of us who liked it don’t get any more of what we lifted because a few dicks had outsized influence.

I don’t get to enjoy something because you didn’t like it. Thanks.

You could have just not watched it, but instead you had to ruin it for me too.

Fuck you. We all need to stop watching these fuckwits who think they know more than us. Unsubscribe from these channels. Stop watching them. They’re ruining our ability to watch things.

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Herr_S_aus_H@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
This is the one thing I will never understand. If you don’t like something just ignore it. If you think you are in the position that your opinion matters in any way you can declare why you don’t like something once and then move on. All those grifters and their brainless drones consume stuff they don’t like willingly and regularly. People who are of sound mind don’t do something like this.

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Adderbox76@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
The new show was cancelled because not enough people watched it.

“Outsized influence” my ass.

Money talks. You think if the show hit the top ten in the streaming Nielsen stats that they’d cancel it because some people “didn’t like it”? Get real.

People are allowed to like something. People are allowed to dislike something. If enough people like it, the show gets enough viewers to continue. If not. It doesn’t.

People who don’t like it aren’t obligated to watch it just to prevent it from being cancelled for your sake.

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homes@piefed.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
The show felt unfocused and confused. The characters, like the storylines, were kinda all over the place and didn’t really seem to know where they were going. It had a lot of potential, but it never really seem to come together.

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- grue@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It was the first season (and only 10 episodes in, at that, because TV production is stupid these days).
  
  Imagine if you could only judge, say, TNG on the first 10 episodes.
  
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  - bold_atlas@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Unfortunately they don’t work like that anymore. There’s no syndication or continuity resets anymore. Every season has to be a 12 hour movie, with every episode integral to the last. You just can’t do that for more a handful of seasons before show runs out of steam dramatically. Shows have be in the groove from the start or they’re just going to be cancelled.
    
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  - homes@piefed.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    On one hand, I would say that it was, by far, the worst first season of any Star Trek show so far. On the other hand, I don’t think it deserved to be canceled. Just heavily reworked, much like TNG after its first season.
    
    But Kurtzman has a pretty poor track record, and it’s just been getting worse and worse and worse. With the exception of Lower Decks, which was exceptionally awesome. seriously. That show was fucking amazing, and I really miss it.
    
    Academy has a great premise, and I actually really like all of the actors and the prototypical concepts for the characters, but the rendering of all of them is just a total mess. it’s hard to say what to do with all of them because, honestly, I hardly even know where to start. There’s just so much… I don’t even know where to start. It’s a lot. It’s like I have all of the ingredients for a really awesome Thanksgiving dinner, but someone put them all in a blender. And now I have to deconstruct the whole thing and start from scratch. Like, it’s all there, but someone makes it all up the wrong way. I don’t know.
    
    I didn’t know the show was canceled. That’s too bad. It deserved another chance. You could tell all of those actors were working really really hard, and they all had a lot of talent. Honestly? I think that they deserved a lot better.
    
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  - Damage@feddit.it ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    Imagine if you could only judge, say, TNG on the first 10 episodes.
    
    Still better, more original, with characters (and actors) on a WHOLE DIFFERENT LEVEL.
    
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    homes@piefed.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    In that level? Better writers, better producers, and better directors.
    
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- RamenJunkie@midwest.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  They DESPERATELY needed more episodes. Like they had this whole War College thing (don’t get me started on the stupid name), and then suddenly it was just kind of gone.
  
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  - homes@piefed.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    OK, so with modern TV production, that’s never gonna happen. What they need to do is find some way to transition the style of storytelling to 10 episodes per season. I honestly don’t know how they’re gonna do that, but they need to figure it out. And Alex Kitzman certainly doesn’t know how to do it. So they need it first of all get rid of his ass. He sucks his whole production team sucks.
    
    They also need to get rid of their visual effects team. I really am sick to death of this hyper realistic unreal presentation of this needle in your brain CGI graphics. I hate it so much.
    
    I really think they need to take a break for a little while and figure out how to adapt the 90s storytelling style to contemporaneous production style. Kurt‘s been tried and failed, and they need to go back to the drawing board and figure out how to do it again. And if the price we have to pay is waiting a few years before we get more Star Trek, I’m willing to make the sacrifice.
    
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- LillyPip@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  All new Trek series feel unfocused and confused in their first season. Watch the first season of TNG or DS9 and tell me it was tight. Every Trek is kind of a mess at first.
  
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  - homes@piefed.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Well… yes, but not anywhere near as bad as this. This was like a bad GHB trip, crazy nightclub setting and all. For any new television show, there are at least a couple dozen foundational elements that set the overall direction of the show and where it’s going, but for this show, all of them were crazy haywire, pointing in a bunch of different directions none of them coordinated. For a normal TV show, when a few of them don’t really work out, they can be re-oriented or smooth out or whatever, but that is made easier because they’re all kind of heading in the same direction. With academy, none of them were ever heading in the same direction, none of them really knew what they wanted to be or what they were even about, or where they were going, so there’s no way to smooth them out or rework them, because any new version of them is still gonna be going in some random direction and wouldn’t know what they were going to be.
    
    If I were the one who was in control of all of this, the first thing I would do, besides firing Alex Kitzman, would be to reboot the show entirely. To make sure that, from the start, everything was coordinated and aligned, and everything was all heading in the same direction, and everything knew what it was, everyone knew what they were or at least where they were headed, and what they were eventually going to be, and we were all on the same page. That everything made some sort of sense, or at least would eventually makes sense, and that we were all on a journey to the same destination. Because, if anything was extremely obvious about this show, it was that nobody had any sort of destination in mind.
    
    Luck, I get what you’re trying to say. Star Trek is very famous for having terrible first seasons for their shows. But this one… This one was different. This first season be lied the fact that no one was thinking of the same thing. No one had any sort of central planning for where they were going. Everyone working on the show was thinking of something different, and there was never any possibility of it all coming together at the end, and we saw that because, at the end of the season, it really didn’t come together at all. At the end of the season, every character, every storyline, every different location, ended up somewhere completely on its own. And nothing really ended up, making any sense at all. And, for every other Star Trek show, during its first season, they were at least able to resolve it in one way or another. All the arcs came to a conclusion, all the storylines ended up in one place, and everything was resolved. But in this case? We were no better off than when we were in the beginning. Lost and confused.
    
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daggermoon@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Sorry, what happened?

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kieron115@startrek.website ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
i’m pretty sure it’s because they tried to make degrassi in space.

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